North American T-6G and Cessna 150K accident near Ramona, California, March 25, 1984
On March 25, 1984, 2 aircraft, North American T-6G (N1364J) and Cessna 150K (N6402G), were involved in the same accident near Ramona, California (Romana airport). 1 person had minor injuries; 2 others were unhurt. The weather was visual conditions (good weather).
The NTSB's probable cause their words, unchanged
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Source: NTSB aviation accident database, copy made November 2, 2026. Docket and reports at the NTSB.
What the record shows
- Date
- March 25, 1984 · cases in 1984
- Place
- Ramona, California · Romana · cases near this airport · map
- Type
- Accident · collision on the ground
- Injuries
- 1 person had minor injuries; 2 others were unhurt.
- Weather
- visual conditions (good weather)
- Aircraft 1
- North American T-6G · all T-6Gs on the register
- Registration
- N1364J · registry record · serial 53655
- Damage
- Minor damage
- Flight
- Personal flight · general aviation rules (Part 91)
- Aircraft 2
- Cessna 150K · all 150Ks on the register
- Registration
- N6402G · no longer on the register · serial 15071902
- Damage
- Substantial damage
- Flight
- Instructional flight · general aviation rules (Part 91)
The NTSB's narrative for the North American T-6G final · quoted from the NTSB record
THE PLT OF A NORTH AMERICAN T-6G, N1364J, HAD JUST LANDED & WAS TAXIING DOWN A PARALLEL TAXIWAY TO THE APCH END OF THE RWY TO TAKEOFF AGAIN. AT ABOUT THE SAME TIME, A CESSNA 150K, N6402G, HAD BEEN STOPPED AT THE INTERSECTION OF THE PARALLEL TAXIWAY & ANOTHER ADJOINING TAXIWAY. THE CESSNA 150 HAD BEEN STOPPED SO THAT THE INSTRUCTOR (CFI) COULD GET OUT OF THE ACFT & THE STUDENT COULD PROCEED WITH HIS 3RD SUPERVISED SOLO. AS THE T-6 APPROACHED THE INTERSECTION WHERE THE CESSNA WAS PARKED, THE T-6 PLT MADE A SHALLOW S-TURN TO THE LEFT, THEN S-TURNED BACK TO THE RIGHT. AT THAT TIME, THE LEFT WING OF THE T-6 IMPACTED THE EMPENNAGE OF THE CESSNA FROM THE LEFT REAR. THE CFI HAD JUST DEPLANED & WAS STANDING ON THE GROUND NEXT TO THE CESSNA. HE WAS KNOCKED OFF BALANCE & GRABBED THE STRUT TO KEEP FROM FALLING TOWARD THE PROPELLER. HE THEN FELL UNDER THE CESSNA & INJURED HIS KNEE. NONE OF THE PLTS WERE AWARE THAT THE COLLISION WAS ABOUT TO OCCUR.
The complete narrative as the NTSB published it. The NTSB's docket holds the report as a PDF and any photographs, statements and other documents from the investigation.
The NTSB's narrative for the Cessna 150K final · quoted from the NTSB record
THE PLT OF A NORTH AMERICAN T-6G, N1364J, HAD JUST LANDED & WAS TAXIING DOWN A PARALLEL TAXIWAY TO THE APCH END OF THE RWY TO TAKEOFF AGAIN. AT ABOUT THE SAME TIME, A CESSNA 150K, N6402G, HAD BEEN STOPPED AT THE INTERSECTION OF THE PARALLEL TAXIWAY & ANOTHER ADJOINING TAXIWAY. THE CESSNA 150 HAD BENN STOPPED SO THAT THE INSTRUCTOR (CFI) COULD GET OUT OF THE ACFT & THE STUDENT COULD PROCEED WITH HIS 3RD SUPERVISED SOLO. AS THE T-6 APPROACHED THE INTERSECTION WHERE THE CESSNA WAS PARKED, THE T-6 PLT MADE A SHALLOW S-TURN TO THE LEFT, THE S-TURNED BACK TO THE RIGHT. AT THAT TIME, THE LEFT WING OF THE T-6 IMPACTED THE EMPENNAGE OF THE CESSNA FROM THE LEFT REAR. THE CFI HAD JUST DEPLANED & WAS STANDING ON THE GROUND NEXT TO THE CESSNA. HE WAS KNOCKED OFF BALANCE & GRABBED THE STRUT TO KEEP FROM FALLING TOWARD THE PROPELLER. HE THEN FELL UNDER THE CESSNA & INJURED HIS KNEE. NONE OF THE PLTS WERE AWARE THAT THE COLLISION WAS ABOUT TO OCCUR.
The complete narrative as the NTSB published it. The NTSB's docket holds the report as a PDF and any photographs, statements and other documents from the investigation.
The factual record for the North American T-6G from the NTSB's investigation tables, in plain English
Pilot
- Certificate: private
- Ratings: single-engine land
- Flight time: 924 hours in all; 202 in this make and model; 22 in the last 90 days; 749 as pilot in command
- Medical certificate: Class 3 (valid medical--w/ waivers/lim.)
- Seat: frt
The aircraft
- Airframe total time: 4,863 hours
- Last inspection: annual inspection, February 14, 1984; 6 hours since
- Maximum gross weight: 4,808 lb
- Seats: 2
- Landing gear: retractable
- Engine: P&W R-1340-AN1 (piston); 0 hours total
The flight
- Departed from: L39 Ramona CA
- Flight plan: none
- Runway 27, 4,000 ft by 150 ft
Weather at the time
- Light: daylight
- Wind: from 270° at 8 knots
- Visibility: 30 statute miles
- Sky: clear
- Temperature: 0°F (-18°C), dew point 0°F (-18°C)
Injuries
| Fatal | Serious | Minor | None | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Crew | 1 |
The factual record for the Cessna 150K from the NTSB's investigation tables, in plain English
Pilot
- Certificate: student
- Flight time: 18 hours in all; 18 in this make and model; 4 in the last 90 days; 2 as pilot in command
- Medical certificate: Class 3
- Seat: left
The aircraft
- Airframe total time: 4,682 hours
- Last inspection: inspection type not recorded, September 18, 1983; 82 hours since
- Maximum gross weight: 1,600 lb
- Seats: 2
- Landing gear: fixed
- Engine: Continental O-200 (piston); 0 hours total
The flight
- Departed from: MYF San Diego CA at 11:45 pm
- Flight plan: none
- Runway 27, 4,000 ft by 150 ft
Injuries
| Fatal | Serious | Minor | None | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Crew | 1 | 1 |
Documents from the investigation the NTSB's docket: the evidence folder behind the report
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Connections how this case links to the rest of the register
- N1364J on the register today · the tail number may have moved to another aircraft since
- North American T-6 Texan 109 registered today · the model family and its accident history
- North American 1,297 aircraft on the register
- N6402G: not on the register today · the record of its deregistration
- Cessna 150 7,992 registered today · the model family and its accident history
- Cessna 72,676 aircraft on the register
- Engine: P&W R-1340-AN1 64 aircraft carry this series today · as the NTSB recorded it
- Engine: Continental O-200 329 aircraft carry this series today · as the NTSB recorded it
- Leesville Airport · departed from
- Montgomery-Gibbs Executive · departed from
- Accidents and incidents in California 9,080 since 1982 · 1,096 in the last ten years
- California 28,134 aircraft registered
The whole map of how records connect · these connections as data: /graph/accident/LAX84LA230.json.
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