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Piper PA-38-112 and Bellanca 8GCBC accident near Rosamond, California, July 16, 1983

On July 16, 1983 at about 8:30 pm local time, 2 aircraft, Piper PA-38-112 (N9905T) and Bellanca 8GCBC (N8667V), were involved in the same accident near Rosamond, California (Rosamond airport). No one was hurt; 3 people were on board or involved. The weather was visual conditions (good weather).

The NTSB's probable cause their words, unchanged

The NTSB has not yet published a probable cause for this accident. Investigations usually take one to two years; this page updates when the final report is released.

Source: NTSB aviation accident database, copy made October 5, 2026. Docket and reports at the NTSB.

What the record shows

Date
July 16, 1983 · about 8:30 pm local time
Place
Rosamond, California · Rosamond · map
Type
Accident · collision on the ground
Injuries
No one was hurt; 3 people were on board or involved.
Weather
visual conditions (good weather)
Aircraft 1
Piper PA-38-112 · all PA-38-112s on the register
Registration
N9905T · no longer on the register · serial 38-78A0256
Damage
Substantial damage
Flight
Instructional flight · general aviation rules (Part 91)
Aircraft 2
Bellanca 8GCBC · all 8GCBCs on the register
Registration
N8667V · registry record · serial 170-75
Damage
Substantial damage
Flight
Business flight · general aviation rules (Part 91)

The NTSB's narrative for the Piper PA-38-112 final · quoted from the NTSB record

A PIPER PA-38, N9905T, AND A BELLANCA 8GCBC, N8667V, COLLIDED AT THE INTERSECTION OF RWYS 22 & 25, WHILE THE ACFT WERE LANDING. THE PIPER PA-38 WAS ON A DUAL INSTRUCTIONAL FLT WHILE THE BELLANCA WAS BEING USED TO TOW GLIDERS. THE AIRCREW IN THE PA-38 SAW THE BELLANCA, JUST PRIOR TO IMPACT & INITIATED EVASIVE ACTION, BUT IT WAS TOO LATE TO AVOID A COLLISION. THE BELLANCA PLT DID NOT SEE THE PA-38 UNTIL THE IMPACT OCCURRED. DURING IMPACT, THE RIGHT WING OF THE PA-38 AND THE PROPELLER & NOSE OF THE BELLANCA WERE DAMAGED.

The complete narrative as the NTSB published it. The NTSB's docket holds the report as a PDF and any photographs, statements and other documents from the investigation.

The NTSB's narrative for the Bellanca 8GCBC final · quoted from the NTSB record

A PIPER PA-38, N9905T, AND A BELLANCA 8GCBC, N8667V, COLLIDED AT THE INTERSECTION OF RWYS 22 & 25, WHILE THE ACFT WERE LANDING. THE PIPER PA-38 WAS ON A DUAL INSTRUCTIONAL FLT WHILE THE BELLANCA WAS BEING USED TO TOW GLIDERS. THE AIRCREW IN THE PA-38 SAW THE BELLANCA, JUST PRIOR TO IMPACT & INITIATED EVASIVE ACTION, BUT IT WAS TOO LATE TO AVOID A COLLISION. THE BELLANCA PLT DID NOT SEE THE PA-38 UNTIL THE IMPACT OCCURRED. DURING IMPACT, THE RIGHT WING OF THE PA-38 AND THE PROPELLER & NOSE OF THE BELLANCA WERE DAMAGED.

The complete narrative as the NTSB published it. The NTSB's docket holds the report as a PDF and any photographs, statements and other documents from the investigation.

The factual record for the Piper PA-38-112 from the NTSB's investigation tables, in plain English

Pilot

  • Certificate: flight instructor
  • Ratings: single-engine land; instructor: airplane single-engine; instructor: glider; rotorcraft: glider
  • Flight time: 3,987 hours in all; 71 in this make and model; 60 in the last 90 days; 3,895 as pilot in command; 1,675 on instruments
  • Medical certificate: Class 2 (valid medical--no waivers/lim.)
  • Seat: rgt

The aircraft

  • Airframe total time: 1,914 hours
  • Last inspection: annual inspection, March 18, 1983; 80 hours since
  • Maximum gross weight: 1,670 lb
  • Seats: 2
  • Landing gear: fixed
  • Engine: Lycoming O-235-L2C (piston); 0 hours total

The flight

  • Flight plan: none
  • Runway 25, 2,616 ft by 40 ft

Weather at the time

  • Light: daylight
  • Wind: from 220° at 10 knots, gusting 12
  • Visibility: 20 statute miles
  • Sky: clear
  • Temperature: 81°F (27°C), dew point 0°F (-18°C)
  • Altimeter: 29.00 inHg

Injuries

FatalSeriousMinorNone
Crew2

The factual record for the Bellanca 8GCBC from the NTSB's investigation tables, in plain English

Pilot

  • Certificate: commercial pilot
  • Ratings: multi-engine land; single-engine land; instructor: airplane multi-engine; instructor: airplane single-engine; instructor: glider; instructor: instrument airplane; instrument: airplane; rotorcraft: glider
  • Flight time: 1,379 hours in all; 386 in this make and model; 55 in the last 90 days; 16 in the last 30 days; 1,190 as pilot in command
  • Medical certificate: Class 2 (valid medical--no waivers/lim.)
  • Seat: ctr

The aircraft

  • Airframe total time: 2,238 hours
  • Last inspection: annual inspection, July 8, 1983; 6 hours since
  • Maximum gross weight: 1,650 lb
  • Seats: 2
  • Landing gear: fixed
  • Engine: Lycoming O-360 (piston); 0 hours total
  • Operator: Aronson'S Air Service

The flight

  • Flight plan: none
  • Runway 22, 2,294 ft by 40 ft

Injuries

FatalSeriousMinorNone
Crew1

Documents from the investigation the NTSB's docket: the evidence folder behind the report

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Other NTSB records under N9905T the same tail number, which may have belonged to a different aircraft at the time

1995-02-04LAX95LA099 · accident near Rosamond, CA · substantial damage · minor injuries

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