Grumman Acft Eng Cor-Schweizer G-164A accident near Chamberino, New Mexico, June 25, 2024
On June 25, 2024 at about 7:15 pm local time, a 1974 Grumman Acft Eng Cor-Schweizer G-164A, registered N9709, was destroyed in an accident during maneuvering (low-alt flying) near Chamberino, New Mexico. It was an instructional flight under general aviation rules (Part 91). 1 person was killed. The weather was visual conditions (good weather).
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The NTSB's probable cause their words, unchanged
An aerodynamic stall and loss of control for reasons that could not be determined based on the available information.
Source: NTSB aviation accident database, copy made October 4, 2026. Docket and reports at the NTSB.
What the record shows
- Date
- June 25, 2024 · about 7:15 pm local time
- Place
- Chamberino, New Mexico · map
- Type
- Accident
- Injuries
- 1 person was killed.
- Weather
- visual conditions (good weather)
- Aircraft
- Grumman Acft Eng Cor-Schweizer G-164A, built 1974 · all G-164As on the register
- Registration
- N9709 · registry record · serial 1233
- Damage
- Destroyed
- Flight
- Instructional flight · general aviation rules (Part 91)
The NTSB's narrative final · quoted from the NTSB record
Before the accident pilot departed on his first solo flight in the single-seat, turbopropeller-equipped biplane, the chief pilot instructed him to depart to the north, climb to altitude, practice turns, climbs and descents, and then return to the departure airport. The chief pilot and the accident pilot were unable to communicate via radio and instead exchanged several text messages during the flight. The accident pilot sent a message stating, “it shakes a little bit, I don’t know if its normal,” to which the chief pilot replied, “Yeah it’s just a lot of horsepower on the front of the plane.” There were no further communications from the accident pilot. Shortly thereafter, the chief pilot observed smoke rising from the area where the pilot was operating. He departed in another airplane and subsequently located the accident site. Two witnesses saw the airplane flying low from north to south. Both witnesses reported that the engine sounded normal. One witness stated that he saw the airplane’s wings rocking left and right several times. The airplane came to rest in sandy desert terrain and was largely consumed by a postimpact fire. No ground scars were observed near the accident site. All major components of the airplane were present, and impact damage was consistent with a right-wing-low, nose-down pitch attitude at the time of impact. Control continuity was established for the left and right lower wing flaperons from the cockpit to the control surfaces. Rudder control continuity was established from the cockpit to the rudder. Elevator control continuity could not be confirmed due to impact and thermal damage. Postaccident examination of the propeller revealed operational signatures consistent with low-to-moderate engine power. Postaccident examination of the engine revealed evidence consistent with the engine producing power at the time of impact, with no indications of preimpact mechanical malfunctions or failures that would have precluded normal operation. Review of the airplane’s maintenance records indicated that its most recent annual inspection was 13 months before the accident. The airplane was issued a special flight permit 20 days before the accident that was valid for 10 days and allowed the airplane to be ferried for repairs or maintenance. The chief pilot reported that the accident flight was the airplane’s first flight following maintenance and that the mechanic had not completed a logbook entry. The mechanic who performed the maintenance stated that she had started the airplane’s annual inspection but did not complete it, because the owner wanted to fly the airplane. When asked, the chief pilot stated that he made the decision to fly the airplane. Review of records provided by the operator after the accident revealed a new entry for an annual inspection, dated the day of the accident. Review of the pilot’s logbook indicated that, in the months before the accident, he received agricultural application training in several models of tailwheel-equipped airplanes, including a high performance, piston-engine-powered biplane; however, other than referring to “chair flights” performed before the accident flight, the operator did not provide additional information regarding the pilot’s transition training for the turbine-powered accident airplane. The orientation of the airplane at the accident site and the lack of ground scarring around the wreckage was consistent with the nose-low, near-vertical descent characteristic of an aerodynamic stall; however, the reason for the loss of control could not be determined based on the available information. Although examination of the wreckage did not reveal any mechanical malfunctions or anomalies, the scope of the examination was limited due to the thermal damage sustained during the postcrash fire. Given the pilot’s unfamiliarity with the accident airplane, it is possible that attempting to communicate with the chief pilot via text message during the flight provided an additional distraction that may have contributed to the loss of control.
The complete narrative as the NTSB published it. The NTSB's docket holds the report as a PDF and any photographs, statements and other documents from the investigation.
The factual record from the NTSB's investigation tables, in plain English
What happened, in order
- Low altitude operation/event during maneuvering (low-alt flying)
- Loss of control in flight during maneuvering (low-alt flying)
- Unknown or undetermined during unknown defining event
The NTSB's findings
- Personnel issues › Task performance › Use of equip/info › Aircraft control › Pilot
- Personnel issues › Experience/knowledge › Experience/qualifications › Total experience w/ equipment › Pilot
- Aircraft › Aircraft oper/perf/capability › Performance/control parameters › Angle of attack › Capability exceeded
- Not determined › Not determined › (general) › (general) › Unknown/Not determined
Pilot
- Certificate: commercial pilot
- Ratings: single-engine land; instrument: airplane
- Flight time: 358.6 hours in all; 34 in the last 90 days; 10.5 in the last 30 days; 317.6 as pilot in command
- Last flight review: April 3, 2024
- Medical certificate: Class 2
- Seat: sngl
- Injury: fatal
The aircraft
- Airframe total time: 8,612 hours
- Last inspection: annual inspection, May 17, 2023
- Maximum gross weight: 7,020 lb
- Seats: 1
- Landing gear: fixed
- Engine: Honeywell TPE-331-1-151 (turboprop); 12,758 hours total
- Fire on the ground
- Operator: Nor Wes INC
The flight
- Departed from: DNA Santa Teresa NM at 7:30 pm
- Flight plan: none
Weather at the time
- Light: daylight
- Visibility: 10 statute miles
- Sky: clear
- Temperature: 100°F (38°C), dew point 48°F (9°C)
- Altimeter: 30.01 inHg
- Observation at 1:35 pm from KDNA, 9 miles away
Weather report (METAR): KDNA 251935Z AUTO VRB04KT 10SM CLR 38/09 A3001 RMK AO2
Injuries
| Fatal | Serious | Minor | None | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flig | 1 |
Other NTSB records under N9709 the same tail number, which may have belonged to a different aircraft at the time
About this page
Everything above comes from the NTSB's public accident database: the narrative, probable cause and findings are the NTSB's own words, and the coded tables behind its report (pilot, aircraft, flight, weather, injuries, sequence of events) are written out in plain English. Pilots' ages, home towns and medical details are left out on purpose. The docket at the NTSB holds the report as a PDF and the investigation's photographs and documents. This site never names pilots, passengers or anyone else involved. A preliminary report describes what is known soon after the event and can change; the final report, with the probable cause, usually follows one to two years later and this page is refreshed when it does. Case number WPR24FA213.
