Wilkes-Barre/Scranton International to Gerald R Ford International AVP → GRR
446 nautical miles (513 statute miles) west on a straight line, true course 285°, about 296° magnetic at the departure end (variation 11W). At 120 knots that is 3 h 55 min at the quickest height in today's winds (4,500 ft, a 6-knot headwind), arriving about 8:02 am EDT (12:02 UTC). Right now AVP is marginal VFR, wind calm; GRR is marginal VFR, wind from the south-southeast (150°) at 4 knots. For planning, not a briefing: the legal preflight briefing comes from Flight Service (1-800-WX-BRIEF) or the FAA's own tools. Airlines fly this pair: 3 flights in the DOT's last twelve reported months, the route's page.
The route the straight line, the warnings crossed, restrictions, pilot reports and the airports along the way · click a mark for its words
Green, blue, red and purple airport dots are the flying conditions reported there now (VFR, marginal VFR, IFR, low IFR); grey means no report. Red areas are SIGMETs, orange areas AIRMETs, hatched red areas temporary flight restrictions. Map tiles: OpenFreeMap, data © OpenStreetMap contributors.
Warnings the route crosses SIGMETs and AIRMETs whose area the line passes through or comes within 25 nm of
- AIRMET SIERRA 3E: low cloud or poor visibility (IFR conditions) (due to ceilings below 1,000 ft, visibility below 3 miles, precipitation, mist, fog). Over the first 406 nm of the route.
- AIRMET TANGO 3W: moderate turbulence above 18,000 ft from 21,000 ft to 33,000 ft. Over the first 10 nm of the route.
- AIRMET SIERRA 4E: mountains obscured by cloud (due to mountains obscured by clouds, precipitation, mist). Over the first 159 nm of the route.
A SIGMET warns of weather hazardous to all aircraft; an AIRMET of weather that matters to small aircraft and to flying without instruments. "From 60 to 180 nm out" is measured along the route from AVP.
Pilot reports along the route within 50 nm of the line, last three hours, the serious ones first
- A333 descending, 24 nm south, 1:44 am EDT (05:44 UTC): a routine report with nothing remarked on. 347 nm along the route, 24 nm south of the line.
as filed, and in English
DTW UA /OV DTW/TM 0544/FLDURD/TP A333/SK TOPS 025
- Report
- a routine report filed through DTW
- Where
- over DTW
- Time
- 05:44 UTC
- Height
- during the descent
- Aircraft
- A333
- Sky
- tops 2,500 ft
Winds aloft along the route, and the time en route the forecast for use 02:00–09:00 UTC · at 120 knots true airspeed
The westbound cruising heights for this course (VFR: even thousands plus 500 ft; above 18,000 ft the forecast levels), with the wind averaged along the line from the 5 forecast points nearest it (AVP, PSB, BUF, CLE, MKG). A plus sign is a headwind, a minus sign a tailwind.
| Height | Average wind | Head- or tailwind | Temperature | Ground speed | Time en route | Arrival |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 4,500 ft | 330° at 10 kt | +6 kt | 13 °C | 114 kt | 3 h 55 min | 8:02 am EDT (12:02 UTC) |
| 6,500 ft | 350° at 13 kt | +6 kt | 12 °C | 114 kt | 3 h 55 min | 8:02 am EDT (12:02 UTC) |
| 8,500 ft | 330° at 13 kt | +8 kt | 9 °C | 112 kt | 3 h 59 min | 8:06 am EDT (12:06 UTC) |
| 10,500 ft | 330° at 12 kt | +9 kt | 6 °C | 111 kt | 4 h 01 min | 8:08 am EDT (12:08 UTC) |
| 12,500 ft | 320° at 12 kt | +9 kt | 2 °C | 111 kt | 4 h 01 min | 8:08 am EDT (12:08 UTC) |
| 14,500 ft | 320° at 15 kt | +12 kt | -2 °C | 108 kt | 4 h 08 min | 8:15 am EDT (12:15 UTC) |
| 16,500 ft | 320° at 19 kt | +15 kt | -7 °C | 105 kt | 4 h 15 min | 8:22 am EDT (12:22 UTC) |
| 18,000 ft FL180 | 320° at 21 kt | +18 kt | -10 °C | 102 kt | 4 h 22 min | 8:29 am EDT (12:29 UTC) |
| 24,000 ft FL240 | 310° at 26 kt | +23 kt | -22 °C | 97 kt | 4 h 36 min | 8:43 am EDT (12:43 UTC) |
| 30,000 ft FL300 | 310° at 36 kt | +30 kt | -36 °C | 90 kt | 4 h 57 min | 9:04 am EDT (13:04 UTC) |
| 34,000 ft FL340 | 300° at 41 kt | +37 kt | -43 °C | 83 kt | 5 h 22 min | 9:29 am EDT (13:29 UTC) |
| 39,000 ft FL390 | 300° at 46 kt | +42 kt | -50 °C | 78 kt | 5 h 43 min | 9:50 am EDT (13:50 UTC) |
Based on data from the 12th at 00:00 UTC; valid on the 12th at 06:00 UTC for use 02:00 to 09:00 UTC; temperatures above 24,000 ft are below zero. Heights are above sea level; a height is left out when the forecast has no wind for it over most of the line (the ground is higher). Ground speed is the airspeed less the headwind; the time en route is for the straight line and ignores climb, descent and routing around weather.
The forecast points as issued
| Point | From | 3,000 | 6,000 | 9,000 | 12,000 | 18,000 | 24,000 | 30,000 | 34,000 | 39,000 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| AVP | used from 0 nm out; 25 nm from the line | 150/5 | 350/13 12° | 270/20 8° | 260/17 4° | 260/25 -11° | 240/31 -22° | 240/54 -35° | 230/61 -41° | 240/55 -49° |
| PSB | used from 50 nm out; 58 nm from the line | 360/13 13° | 330/14 7° | 300/11 3° | 290/12 -11° | 240/23 -23° | 270/25 -36° | 250/34 -40° | 250/45 -48° | |
| BUF | used from 149 nm out; 64 nm from the line | 320/10 | 010/16 10° | 360/10 6° | 340/13 2° | 330/22 -11° | 300/25 -23° | 320/31 -38° | 300/29 -44° | 280/36 -50° |
| CLE | used from 198 nm out; 75 nm from the line | 340/7 | 010/16 13° | 350/18 8° | 350/20 3° | 340/31 -10° | 340/46 -21° | 340/54 -37° | 330/62 -44° | 340/65 -49° |
| MKG | used from 347 nm out; 108 nm from the line | 260/22 | 290/16 15° | 300/11 10° | 290/5 3° | 300/26 -9° | 300/32 -20° | 320/48 -36° | 320/61 -45° | 310/74 -53° |
The weather now: both ends and the airports along the way public airports with a weather report within 25 nm of the line, one for each stretch
| Airport | Where | Conditions | Wind | Visibility | Ceiling | Elevation | Reported |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| AVP Wilkes-Barre/Scranton, PA | departure | marginal VFR Sky: overcast at 1,500 feet | calm | 10+ mi | 1,500 ft | 961 ft | 3:54 am EDT (07:54 UTC) |
| IPT Williamsport, PA | 50 nm out, 20 nm south of the line, tower | VFR Sky: a few clouds at 1,500 feet, overcast at 4,100 feet | from the west (260°) at 4 knots | 10+ mi | 4,100 ft | 528 ft | 07:54 UTC |
| ELZ Wellsville, NY | 109 nm out, 19 nm north of the line | low IFR Sky: sky obscured at 200 feet Weather: fog | from the northwest (310°) at 7 knots | 0.25 mi | 200 ft | 2,124 ft | 07:56 UTC |
| BFD Bradford, PA | 139 nm out, 7 nm southeast of the line | low IFR Sky: overcast at 200 feet | from the northwest (320°) at 7 knots | 10+ mi | 200 ft | 2,143 ft | 07:53 UTC |
| ERI Erie, PA | 208 nm out, 6 nm southeast of the line, tower | marginal VFR Sky: overcast at 3,000 feet | variable at 4 knots | 10+ mi | 3,000 ft | 732 ft | 00:51 UTC |
| DET Detroit, MI | 327 nm out, 11 nm southwest of the line, tower | IFR Sky: overcast at 900 feet | from the west (260°) at 4 knots | 10+ mi | 900 ft | 624 ft | 08:03 UTC |
| PTK Pontiac, MI | 357 nm out, 5 nm east of the line, tower | low IFR Sky: overcast at 400 feet | from the west (260°) at 5 knots | 10+ mi | 400 ft | 980 ft | 07:53 UTC |
| LAN Lansing, MI | 406 nm out, 2 nm east of the line, tower | VFR | from the south-southwest (200°) at 6 knots | 8 mi | none | 860 ft | 07:53 UTC |
| GRR Grand Rapids, MI | destination | marginal VFR Weather: mist | from the south-southeast (150°) at 4 knots | 5 mi | none | 793 ft | 4:01 am EDT (08:01 UTC) |
The highest airport on this list sits at 2,143 ft; the ground between airports is higher still. Check the sectional chart for the terrain and the minimum safe heights along the line.
At GRR when you get there the forecast at the estimated arrival, 8:02 am EDT (12:02 UTC)
Wind from the south at 5 knots, visibility more than 6 miles, scattered clouds at 25,000 feet VFR
The whole forecast for GRR
- From Mon 2:00 am EDT (06:00 UTC): wind from the south at 3 knots, visibility 4 miles, mist, scattered clouds at 25,000 feet
- At times between Mon 2:00 am EDT (06:00 UTC) and 4:00 am EDT (08:00 UTC): visibility ½ mile, fog
- From Mon 5:00 am EDT (09:00 UTC): wind from the south at 5 knots, visibility more than 6 miles, scattered clouds at 25,000 feet
- From Mon 1:00 pm EDT (17:00 UTC): wind from the southwest at 12 knots, gusting to 20, visibility more than 6 miles, a broken layer at 20,000 feet
- From Mon 6:00 pm EDT (22:00 UTC): wind from the south-southwest at 10 knots, visibility more than 6 miles, scattered clouds at 8,000 feet
- From Mon 10:00 pm EDT (02:00 UTC): wind from the south at 8 knots, visibility 4 miles, light rain showers, mist, scattered clouds at 5,000 feet, overcast at 8,000 feet
- 30% chance between Mon 10:00 pm EDT (02:00 UTC) and 2:00 am EDT (06:00 UTC): visibility 2 miles, light thunderstorms with rain, mist, overcast at 3,500 feet (thunderheads)
The forecast for AVP, the departure
- From Mon 2:00 am EDT (06:00 UTC): wind from the east-northeast at 6 knots, visibility more than 6 miles, overcast at 1,500 feet
- From Mon 1:00 pm EDT (17:00 UTC): wind from the north-northwest at 6 knots, gusting to 14, visibility more than 6 miles, a broken layer at 2,500 feet
- From Mon 4:00 pm EDT (20:00 UTC): wind from the north-northwest at 7 knots, gusting to 15, visibility more than 6 miles, a broken layer at 4,000 feet
Temporary flight restrictions on the line or within 25 nm of it
No temporary flight restriction on or near this route right now.
Daylight
Sunset at AVP 6:27 pm EDT (22:27 UTC), at GRR 7:04 pm EDT (23:04 UTC) (civil twilight ends 7:33 pm EDT (23:33 UTC)).
Each restriction opens the FAA's own page with the exact area, heights and times. Ordinary notices to air missions (closed runways, lights out) are not shown: the FAA's notice search is not open to sites like this one at this time.
Radar and forecast charts for the regions crossed government pictures, the latest each time the page loads
Sources: the Aviation Weather Center's data service (SIGMETs, AIRMETs, graphical AIRMETs, pilot reports, winds and temperatures aloft, observations and terminal forecasts), the National Weather Service radar, the Weather Prediction Center's charts, the FAA's temporary flight restriction list and shapes, and the FAA's airport file for the positions, elevations and magnetic variation. Fetched when the page is viewed and kept a few minutes. Each leg is the straight line between its two airports; airways, terrain and airspace are not considered. The airports in detail: Wilkes-Barre/Scranton International, Gerald R Ford International.