Wilkes-Barre/Scranton International to Gerald R Ford International AVP → GRR
446 nautical miles (513 statute miles) west on a straight line, true course 285°, about 296° magnetic at the departure end (variation 11W). At 120 knots that is 3 h 51 min at the quickest height in today's winds (4,500 ft, a 4-knot headwind), arriving about 1:47 am EDT (05:47 UTC), after sunset at the destination. Right now AVP is marginal VFR, wind from the northeast (040°) at 8 knots; GRR is VFR, wind from the south (190°) at 6 knots. For planning, not a briefing: the legal preflight briefing comes from Flight Service (1-800-WX-BRIEF) or the FAA's own tools. Airlines fly this pair: 3 flights in the DOT's last twelve reported months, the route's page.
The route the straight line, the warnings crossed, restrictions, pilot reports and the airports along the way · click a mark for its words
Green, blue, red and purple airport dots are the flying conditions reported there now (VFR, marginal VFR, IFR, low IFR); grey means no report. Red areas are SIGMETs, orange areas AIRMETs, hatched red areas temporary flight restrictions. Map tiles: OpenFreeMap, data © OpenStreetMap contributors.
Warnings the route crosses SIGMETs and AIRMETs whose area the line passes through or comes within 25 nm of
- AIRMET SIERRA 3E: low cloud or poor visibility (IFR conditions) (due to ceilings below 1,000 ft, visibility below 3 miles, precipitation, mist). Over the first 357 nm of the route.
- AIRMET TANGO 3W: moderate turbulence above 18,000 ft from 21,000 ft to 33,000 ft. Over the first 198 nm of the route.
- AIRMET TANGO 2W: moderate turbulence below 18,000 ft up to 13,000 ft. Over the first 10 nm of the route.
- AIRMET SIERRA 4E: mountains obscured by cloud (due to mountains obscured by clouds, precipitation, mist). Over the first 159 nm of the route.
A SIGMET warns of weather hazardous to all aircraft; an AIRMET of weather that matters to small aircraft and to flying without instruments. "From 60 to 180 nm out" is measured along the route from AVP.
Pilot reports along the route within 50 nm of the line, last three hours, the serious ones first
- A320 at 33,000 ft, 33 nm south, 8:36 pm EDT (00:36 UTC): moderate turbulence above 33,000 ft, remarks: zob. 426 nm along the route, 33 nm south of the line.
as filed, and in English
JXN UA /OV JXN280030/TM 0036/FL330/TP A320/TB OCNL MOD 330/RM ZOB
- Report
- a routine report filed through JXN
- Where
- 30 nm west (280°) of JXN
- Time
- 00:36 UTC
- Height
- at 33,000 ft
- Aircraft
- A320
- Turbulence
- occasional moderate at 33,000 ft
- Remarks
- zob
- CRJ7 at 3,100 ft, 0 nm north, 9:24 pm EDT (01:24 UTC): a routine report with nothing remarked on. At the departure end, 0 nm north of the line.
as filed, and in English
AVP UA /OV AVP/TM 0124/FL031/TP CRJ7/SK TOP031
- Report
- a routine report filed through AVP
- Where
- over AVP
- Time
- 01:24 UTC
- Height
- at 3,100 ft
- Aircraft
- CRJ7
- Sky
- TOP031
- BCS3 at 2,500 ft, 0 nm north, 9:04 pm EDT (01:04 UTC): overcast above 2,500 ft. At the departure end, 0 nm north of the line.
as filed, and in English
AVP UA /OV AVP/TM 0104/FL025/TP BCS3/SK OVC025
- Report
- a routine report filed through AVP
- Where
- over AVP
- Time
- 01:04 UTC
- Height
- at 2,500 ft
- Aircraft
- BCS3
- Sky
- overcast from 2,500 ft
- C700 at 22,000 ft, 25 nm north, 7:26 pm EDT (23:26 UTC): light chop turbulence, light rime icing, -16 °C. 30 nm along the route, 25 nm north of the line.
as filed, and in English
BGM UA /OV CFB200018/TM 2326/FL220/TP C700/TA M16/TB CONS LGT CHOP/IC LGT RIME
- Report
- a routine report filed through BGM
- Where
- 18 nm south (200°) of CFB
- Time
- 23:26 UTC
- Height
- at 22,000 ft
- Aircraft
- C700
- Temperature
- −16 °C
- Turbulence
- continuous light chop
- Icing
- light rime
- A21N at 30,000 ft, 34 nm north, 7:36 pm EDT (23:36 UTC): light to moderate chop turbulence, remarks: zob. 149 nm along the route, 34 nm north of the line.
as filed, and in English
JHW UA /OV JHW050025/TM 2336/FL300/TP A21N/TB LGT-MOD CHOP/RM ZOB
- Report
- a routine report filed through JHW
- Where
- 25 nm northeast (050°) of JHW
- Time
- 23:36 UTC
- Height
- at 30,000 ft
- Aircraft
- A21N
- Turbulence
- light to moderate chop
- Remarks
- zob
- E145 at 3,000 ft, 2 nm west, 7:45 pm EDT (23:45 UTC): a broken layer above 3,000 ft. 198 nm along the route, 2 nm west of the line.
as filed, and in English
ERI UA /OV DEFJO/TM 2345/FL030/TP E145/SK BKN030
- Report
- a routine report filed through ERI
- Where
- defjo
- Time
- 23:45 UTC
- Height
- at 3,000 ft
- Aircraft
- E145
- Sky
- a broken layer from 3,000 ft
- AC90 , 6 nm southeast, 8:16 pm EDT (00:16 UTC): a routine report with nothing remarked on. 208 nm along the route, 6 nm southeast of the line.
as filed, and in English
ERI UA /OV ERI060006/TM 0016/FLB3.0/TP AC90
- Report
- a routine report filed through ERI
- Where
- 6 nm northeast (060°) of ERI
- Time
- 00:16 UTC
- Height
- at B3.0
- Aircraft
- AC90
- AC90 descending, 20 nm south, 8:13 pm EDT (00:13 UTC): a routine report with nothing remarked on. 218 nm along the route, 20 nm south of the line.
as filed, and in English
ERI UA /OV ERI240015/TM 0013/FLDURD/TP AC90/SK T046 B042
- Report
- a routine report filed through ERI
- Where
- 15 nm southwest (240°) of ERI
- Time
- 00:13 UTC
- Height
- during the descent
- Aircraft
- AC90
- Sky
- T046 B042
- CRJ7 descending, 24 nm south, 9:01 pm EDT (01:01 UTC): overcast above 2,800 ft. 347 nm along the route, 24 nm south of the line.
as filed, and in English
DTW UA /OV FINAL 3R /TM 0101/FLDURD/TP CRJ7/SK OVC 028
- Report
- a routine report filed through DTW
- Where
- final 3R
- Time
- 01:01 UTC
- Height
- during the descent
- Aircraft
- CRJ7
- Sky
- overcast from 2,800 ft
- A21N descending, 24 nm south, 8:22 pm EDT (00:22 UTC): overcast above 1,500 ft. 347 nm along the route, 24 nm south of the line.
as filed, and in English
DTW UA /OV DTW/TM 0022/FLDURD/TP A21N/SK OVC015
- Report
- a routine report filed through DTW
- Where
- over DTW
- Time
- 00:22 UTC
- Height
- during the descent
- Aircraft
- A21N
- Sky
- overcast from 1,500 ft
- CRJ9 descending, 24 nm south, 8:08 pm EDT (00:08 UTC): overcast above 1,100 ft, remarks: final runway 4L. 347 nm along the route, 24 nm south of the line.
as filed, and in English
DTW UA /OV DTW/TM 0008/FLDURD/TP CRJ9/SK OVC 011/RM FINAL RY 4L
- Report
- a routine report filed through DTW
- Where
- over DTW
- Time
- 00:08 UTC
- Height
- during the descent
- Aircraft
- CRJ9
- Sky
- overcast from 1,100 ft
- Remarks
- final runway 4L
- E75S descending, 24 nm south, 7:01 pm EDT (23:01 UTC): a routine report with nothing remarked on. 347 nm along the route, 24 nm south of the line.
as filed, and in English
DTW UA /OV RWY 3R/TM 2301/FLDURD/TP E75S/SK TOPS 020 BASES 010
- Report
- a routine report filed through DTW
- Where
- runway 3R
- Time
- 23:01 UTC
- Height
- during the descent
- Aircraft
- E75S
- Sky
- tops 2,000 ft bases 1,000 ft
- SR22 at 1,300 ft, 2 nm northeast, 9:25 pm EDT (01:25 UTC): a routine report with nothing remarked on. 357 nm along the route, 2 nm northeast of the line.
as filed, and in English
PTK UA /OV PTK270003/TM 0125/FL013/TP SR22/SK BASES 019 OVC
- Report
- a routine report filed through PTK
- Where
- 3 nm west (270°) of PTK
- Time
- 01:25 UTC
- Height
- at 1,300 ft
- Aircraft
- SR22
- Sky
- bases 1,900 ft overcast
- C550 at 2,300 ft, 5 nm east, 8:46 pm EDT (00:46 UTC): remarks: fis 4 mile final. 357 nm along the route, 5 nm east of the line.
as filed, and in English
PTK UA /OV 4W/TM 0046/FL023/TP C550/RM FIS 4 MILE FINAL
- Report
- a routine report filed through PTK
- Where
- 4W
- Time
- 00:46 UTC
- Height
- at 2,300 ft
- Aircraft
- C550
- Remarks
- fis 4 mile final
7 more routine reports are on the map.
Winds aloft along the route, and the time en route the forecast for use 20:00–03:00 UTC · at 120 knots true airspeed
The westbound cruising heights for this course (VFR: even thousands plus 500 ft; above 18,000 ft the forecast levels), with the wind averaged along the line from the 5 forecast points nearest it (AVP, PSB, BUF, CLE, MKG). A plus sign is a headwind, a minus sign a tailwind.
| Height | Average wind | Head- or tailwind | Temperature | Ground speed | Time en route | Arrival |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 4,500 ft | 260° at 4 kt | +4 kt | 13 °C | 116 kt | 3 h 51 min | 1:47 am EDT (05:47 UTC) |
| 6,500 ft | 280° at 8 kt | +8 kt | 12 °C | 112 kt | 3 h 59 min | 1:55 am EDT (05:55 UTC) |
| 8,500 ft | 290° at 9 kt | +9 kt | 9 °C | 111 kt | 4 h 01 min | 1:57 am EDT (05:57 UTC) |
| 10,500 ft | 280° at 9 kt | +9 kt | 5 °C | 111 kt | 4 h 01 min | 1:57 am EDT (05:57 UTC) |
| 12,500 ft | 280° at 10 kt | +9 kt | 2 °C | 111 kt | 4 h 01 min | 1:57 am EDT (05:57 UTC) |
| 14,500 ft | 270° at 12 kt | +11 kt | -2 °C | 109 kt | 4 h 06 min | 2:02 am EDT (06:02 UTC) |
| 16,500 ft | 270° at 14 kt | +13 kt | -7 °C | 107 kt | 4 h 10 min | 2:06 am EDT (06:06 UTC) |
| 18,000 ft FL180 | 270° at 16 kt | +15 kt | -10 °C | 105 kt | 4 h 15 min | 2:11 am EDT (06:11 UTC) |
| 24,000 ft FL240 | 270° at 14 kt | +13 kt | -22 °C | 107 kt | 4 h 10 min | 2:06 am EDT (06:06 UTC) |
| 30,000 ft FL300 | 260° at 32 kt | +28 kt | -35 °C | 92 kt | 4 h 51 min | 2:47 am EDT (06:47 UTC) |
| 34,000 ft FL340 | 250° at 43 kt | +33 kt | -42 °C | 87 kt | 5 h 08 min | 3:04 am EDT (07:04 UTC) |
| 39,000 ft FL390 | 250° at 49 kt | +41 kt | -49 °C | 79 kt | 5 h 39 min | 3:35 am EDT (07:35 UTC) |
Based on data from the 11th at 18:00 UTC; valid on the 12th at 00:00 UTC for use 20:00 to 03:00 UTC; temperatures above 24,000 ft are below zero. Heights are above sea level; a height is left out when the forecast has no wind for it over most of the line (the ground is higher). Ground speed is the airspeed less the headwind; the time en route is for the straight line and ignores climb, descent and routing around weather.
The forecast points as issued
| Point | From | 3,000 | 6,000 | 9,000 | 12,000 | 18,000 | 24,000 | 30,000 | 34,000 | 39,000 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| AVP | used from 0 nm out; 25 nm from the line | 110/36 | 190/34 13° | 230/11 8° | 230/16 4° | 230/26 -8° | 220/40 -19° | 230/73 -33° | 230/98 -41° | 230/87 -51° |
| PSB | used from 50 nm out; 58 nm from the line | 260/13 13° | 220/12 8° | 220/11 4° | 230/27 -11° | 210/31 -21° | 220/73 -32° | 220/75 -40° | 230/66 -50° | |
| BUF | used from 149 nm out; 64 nm from the line | 170/19 | L/V 10° | 040/9 6° | 220/8 2° | 230/15 -11° | 220/33 -22° | 220/47 -35° | 230/55 -41° | 230/56 -50° |
| CLE | used from 198 nm out; 75 nm from the line | 340/5 | 320/13 14° | 300/12 8° | 310/10 2° | 310/14 -10° | 340/14 -23° | 320/27 -35° | 260/28 -40° | 250/36 -48° |
| MKG | used from 347 nm out; 108 nm from the line | 250/5 | 320/10 15° | 310/19 9° | 320/21 3° | 310/23 -10° | 330/37 -22° | 330/51 -38° | 320/44 -47° | 300/60 -49° |
The weather now: both ends and the airports along the way public airports with a weather report within 25 nm of the line, one for each stretch
| Airport | Where | Conditions | Wind | Visibility | Ceiling | Elevation | Reported |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| AVP Wilkes-Barre/Scranton, PA | departure | marginal VFR Sky: overcast at 1,400 feet | from the northeast (040°) at 8 knots | 10+ mi | 1,400 ft | 961 ft | 8:54 pm EDT (00:54 UTC) |
| IPT Williamsport, PA | 50 nm out, 20 nm south of the line, tower | marginal VFR Sky: a few clouds at 1,300 feet, overcast at 2,400 feet | calm | 10+ mi | 2,400 ft | 528 ft | 00:54 UTC |
| ELZ Wellsville, NY | 109 nm out, 19 nm north of the line | low IFR Sky: overcast at 300 feet Weather: mist | from the east (080°) at 4 knots | 5 mi | 300 ft | 2,124 ft | 01:25 UTC |
| BFD Bradford, PA | 139 nm out, 7 nm southeast of the line | IFR Sky: a broken layer at 500 feet, overcast at 2,300 feet | from the east (080°) at 3 knots | 10+ mi | 500 ft | 2,143 ft | 01:46 UTC |
| ERI Erie, PA | 208 nm out, 6 nm southeast of the line, tower | marginal VFR Sky: overcast at 3,000 feet | variable at 4 knots | 10+ mi | 3,000 ft | 732 ft | 00:51 UTC |
| DET Detroit, MI | 327 nm out, 11 nm southwest of the line, tower | IFR Sky: overcast at 600 feet Weather: mist | calm | 6 mi | 600 ft | 624 ft | 01:53 UTC |
| PTK Pontiac, MI | 357 nm out, 5 nm east of the line, tower | marginal VFR Sky: overcast at 1,300 feet | calm | 10+ mi | 1,300 ft | 980 ft | 01:53 UTC |
| LAN Lansing, MI | 406 nm out, 2 nm east of the line, tower | marginal VFR Sky: a broken layer at 1,200 feet | from the southwest (220°) at 4 knots | 10+ mi | 1,200 ft | 860 ft | 01:53 UTC |
| GRR Grand Rapids, MI | destination | VFR Sky: scattered clouds at 25,000 feet | from the south (190°) at 6 knots | 10+ mi | none | 793 ft | 9:53 pm EDT (01:53 UTC) |
The highest airport on this list sits at 2,143 ft; the ground between airports is higher still. Check the sectional chart for the terrain and the minimum safe heights along the line.
At GRR when you get there the forecast at the estimated arrival, 1:47 am EDT (05:47 UTC)
Wind from the south-southwest at 4 knots, visibility more than 6 miles, scattered clouds at 25,000 feet VFR
The whole forecast for GRR
- From Sun 8:00 pm EDT (00:00 UTC): wind from the south-southwest at 4 knots, visibility more than 6 miles, scattered clouds at 25,000 feet
- From Mon 8:00 am EDT (12:00 UTC): wind from the south-southwest at 8 knots, visibility more than 6 miles, a broken layer at 25,000 feet
- From Mon 3:00 pm EDT (19:00 UTC): wind from the southwest at 13 knots, gusting to 21, visibility more than 6 miles, a broken layer at 25,000 feet
- From Mon 6:00 pm EDT (22:00 UTC): wind from the southwest at 11 knots, visibility more than 6 miles, a broken layer at 25,000 feet
The forecast for AVP, the departure
- From Sun 8:00 pm EDT (00:00 UTC): wind from the east-northeast at 7 knots, gusting to 17, visibility 6 miles, light drizzle, mist, low-level wind shear, overcast at 1,500 feet
- At times between Sun 8:00 pm EDT (00:00 UTC) and 11:00 pm EDT (03:00 UTC): visibility 4 miles, light rain showers, mist, overcast at 900 feet
- From Sun 11:00 pm EDT (03:00 UTC): wind from the east-northeast at 6 knots, visibility 4 miles, mist, overcast at 800 feet
- From Mon 8:00 am EDT (12:00 UTC): wind light and variable, visibility 5 miles, mist, a broken layer at 1,300 feet
- From Mon 1:00 pm EDT (17:00 UTC): wind from the north-northwest at 6 knots, gusting to 14, visibility more than 6 miles, a broken layer at 1,800 feet
- From Mon 3:00 pm EDT (19:00 UTC): wind from the north-northwest at 7 knots, gusting to 15, visibility more than 6 miles, a broken layer at 4,000 feet
Temporary flight restrictions on the line or within 25 nm of it
No temporary flight restriction on or near this route right now.
Daylight
Sunset at AVP 6:27 pm EDT (22:27 UTC), at GRR 7:04 pm EDT (23:04 UTC) (civil twilight ends 7:33 pm EDT (23:33 UTC)). At 120 knots the arrival at GRR is before sunrise there (7:51 am EDT (11:51 UTC)).
Each restriction opens the FAA's own page with the exact area, heights and times. Ordinary notices to air missions (closed runways, lights out) are not shown: the FAA's notice search is not open to sites like this one at this time.
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Sources: the Aviation Weather Center's data service (SIGMETs, AIRMETs, graphical AIRMETs, pilot reports, winds and temperatures aloft, observations and terminal forecasts), the National Weather Service radar, the Weather Prediction Center's charts, the FAA's temporary flight restriction list and shapes, and the FAA's airport file for the positions, elevations and magnetic variation. Fetched when the page is viewed and kept a few minutes. Each leg is the straight line between its two airports; airways, terrain and airspace are not considered. The airports in detail: Wilkes-Barre/Scranton International, Gerald R Ford International.
