Willow Run Airport to LA Crosse Regional YIP → LSE
353 nautical miles (406 statute miles) west on a straight line, true course 289°, about 295° magnetic at the departure end (variation 6W). At 120 knots that is 3 h 14 min at the quickest height in today's winds (4,500 ft, a 11-knot headwind), arriving about 11:15 pm CDT (04:15 UTC), after sunset at the destination. For planning, not a briefing: the legal preflight briefing comes from Flight Service (1-800-WX-BRIEF) or the FAA's own tools. Airlines fly this pair: 1 flights in the DOT's last twelve reported months, the route's page.
The route the straight line, the warnings crossed, restrictions, pilot reports and the airports along the way · click a mark for its words
Green, blue, red and purple airport dots are the flying conditions reported there now (VFR, marginal VFR, IFR, low IFR); grey means no report. Red areas are SIGMETs, orange areas AIRMETs, hatched red areas temporary flight restrictions. Map tiles: OpenFreeMap, data © OpenStreetMap contributors.
Warnings the route crosses SIGMETs and AIRMETs whose area the line passes through or comes within 25 nm of
- AIRMET SIERRA 3E: low cloud or poor visibility (IFR conditions) (due to ceilings below 1,000 ft, visibility below 3 miles, precipitation, mist). Over the first 20 nm of the route.
A SIGMET warns of weather hazardous to all aircraft; an AIRMET of weather that matters to small aircraft and to flying without instruments. "From 60 to 180 nm out" is measured along the route from YIP.
Pilot reports along the route within 50 nm of the line, last three hours, the serious ones first
- A320 at 33,000 ft, 20 nm south, 8:36 pm EDT (00:36 UTC): moderate turbulence above 33,000 ft, remarks: zob. 69 nm along the route, 20 nm south of the line.
as filed, and in English
JXN UA /OV JXN280030/TM 0036/FL330/TP A320/TB OCNL MOD 330/RM ZOB
- Report
- a routine report filed through JXN
- Where
- 30 nm west (280°) of JXN
- Time
- 00:36 UTC
- Height
- at 33,000 ft
- Aircraft
- A320
- Turbulence
- occasional moderate at 33,000 ft
- Remarks
- zob
- C550 at 2,300 ft, 26 nm north, 8:46 pm EDT (00:46 UTC): remarks: fis 4 mile final. At the departure end, 26 nm north of the line.
as filed, and in English
PTK UA /OV 4W/TM 0046/FL023/TP C550/RM FIS 4 MILE FINAL
- Report
- a routine report filed through PTK
- Where
- 4W
- Time
- 00:46 UTC
- Height
- at 2,300 ft
- Aircraft
- C550
- Remarks
- fis 4 mile final
- A21N descending, 8 nm east, 8:22 pm EDT (00:22 UTC): overcast above 1,500 ft. At the departure end, 8 nm east of the line.
as filed, and in English
DTW UA /OV DTW/TM 0022/FLDURD/TP A21N/SK OVC015
- Report
- a routine report filed through DTW
- Where
- over DTW
- Time
- 00:22 UTC
- Height
- during the descent
- Aircraft
- A21N
- Sky
- overcast from 1,500 ft
- A320 climbing, 41 nm south, 8:14 pm EDT (00:14 UTC): overcast. At the departure end, 41 nm south of the line.
as filed, and in English
TOL UA /OV TOL/TM 0014/FLDURC/TP A320/SK B025 OVC T040
- Report
- a routine report filed through TOL
- Where
- over TOL
- Time
- 00:14 UTC
- Height
- during the climb
- Aircraft
- A320
- Sky
- B025 overcast T040
- CRJ9 descending, 8 nm east, 8:08 pm EDT (00:08 UTC): overcast above 1,100 ft, remarks: final runway 4L. At the departure end, 8 nm east of the line.
as filed, and in English
DTW UA /OV DTW/TM 0008/FLDURD/TP CRJ9/SK OVC 011/RM FINAL RY 4L
- Report
- a routine report filed through DTW
- Where
- over DTW
- Time
- 00:08 UTC
- Height
- during the descent
- Aircraft
- CRJ9
- Sky
- overcast from 1,100 ft
- Remarks
- final runway 4L
- GLF5 at 9,000 ft, 26 nm north, 7:13 pm EDT (23:13 UTC): overcast from 1,500 ft to 4,000 ft. At the departure end, 26 nm north of the line.
as filed, and in English
PTK UA /OV PTK 7E/TM 2313/FL090/TP GLF5/SK OVC015-TOP040
- Report
- a routine report filed through PTK
- Where
- ptk 7E
- Time
- 23:13 UTC
- Height
- at 9,000 ft
- Aircraft
- GLF5
- Sky
- overcast from 1,500 ft, tops 4,000 ft
- PA32 at 1,500 ft, 26 nm north, 7:03 pm EDT (23:03 UTC): overcast above 1,500 ft. At the departure end, 26 nm north of the line.
as filed, and in English
PTK UA /OV PTK 1W/TM 2303/FL015/TP PA32/SK OVC015
- Report
- a routine report filed through PTK
- Where
- ptk 1W
- Time
- 23:03 UTC
- Height
- at 1,500 ft
- Aircraft
- PA32
- Sky
- overcast from 1,500 ft
- E75S descending, 8 nm east, 7:01 pm EDT (23:01 UTC): a routine report with nothing remarked on. At the departure end, 8 nm east of the line.
as filed, and in English
DTW UA /OV RWY 3R/TM 2301/FLDURD/TP E75S/SK TOPS 020 BASES 010
- Report
- a routine report filed through DTW
- Where
- runway 3R
- Time
- 23:01 UTC
- Height
- during the descent
- Aircraft
- E75S
- Sky
- tops 2,000 ft bases 1,000 ft
- A320 descending, 41 nm south, 7:00 pm EDT (23:00 UTC): overcast from 1,600 ft to 3,500 ft, wind 350° at 9 knots. At the departure end, 41 nm south of the line.
as filed, and in English
TOL UA /OV TOL/TM 2300/FLDURD/TP A320/SK OVC016 TOP035/WV 35009KTS AT 023
- Report
- a routine report filed through TOL
- Where
- over TOL
- Time
- 23:00 UTC
- Height
- during the descent
- Aircraft
- A320
- Sky
- overcast from 1,600 ft, tops 3,500 ft
- Wind
- wind from 350° at 9 knots at at 2,300 ft
- E55P descending, 0 nm northwest, 7:00 pm EDT (23:00 UTC): a routine report with nothing remarked on. At the departure end, 0 nm northwest of the line.
as filed, and in English
YIP UA /OV KYIP/TM 2300/FLDURD/TP E55P/SK B015
- Report
- a routine report filed through YIP
- Where
- over KYIP
- Time
- 23:00 UTC
- Height
- during the descent
- Aircraft
- E55P
- Sky
- B015
- B712 at 300 ft, 8 nm east, 6:21 pm EDT (22:21 UTC): overcast, remarks: tops 4,000 ft bases 300 ft. At the departure end, 8 nm east of the line.
as filed, and in English
DTW UA /OV DTW/TM 2221/FL003/TP B712/SK OVC/RM TOPS 040 BASES 003
- Report
- a routine report filed through DTW
- Where
- over DTW
- Time
- 22:21 UTC
- Height
- at 300 ft
- Aircraft
- B712
- Sky
- overcast
- Remarks
- tops 4,000 ft bases 300 ft
- H25B at 1,500 ft, 26 nm north, 6:20 pm EDT (22:20 UTC): overcast above 1,700 ft. At the departure end, 26 nm north of the line.
as filed, and in English
PTK UA /OV PTK270001/TM 2220/FL015/TP H25B/SK OVC017-TOPUNKN
- Report
- a routine report filed through PTK
- Where
- 1 nm west (270°) of PTK
- Time
- 22:20 UTC
- Height
- at 1,500 ft
- Aircraft
- H25B
- Sky
- overcast from 1,700 ft, tops unknown
- BE36 at 3,000 ft, 10 nm northeast, 6:20 pm EDT (22:20 UTC): no turbulence, imc. At the departure end, 10 nm northeast of the line.
as filed, and in English
DTW UA /OV SVM/TM 2220/FL030/TP BE36/SK IMC/TB SMOOTH
- Report
- a routine report filed through DTW
- Where
- over SVM
- Time
- 22:20 UTC
- Height
- at 3,000 ft
- Aircraft
- BE36
- Sky
- instrument conditions
- Turbulence
- smooth
- CRJ2 descending, 38 nm north, 6:30 pm EDT (22:30 UTC): overcast from 1,900 ft to 2,900 ft. 20 nm along the route, 38 nm north of the line.
as filed, and in English
FNT UA /OV FNT/TM 2230/FLDURD/TP CRJ2/SK OVC019 - TOP029
- Report
- a routine report filed through FNT
- Where
- over FNT
- Time
- 22:30 UTC
- Height
- during the descent
- Aircraft
- CRJ2
- Sky
- overcast from 1,900 ft, tops 2,900 ft
5 more routine reports are on the map.
Winds aloft along the route, and the time en route the forecast for use 20:00–03:00 UTC · at 120 knots true airspeed
The westbound cruising heights for this course (VFR: even thousands plus 500 ft; above 18,000 ft the forecast levels), with the wind averaged along the line from the 4 forecast points nearest it (FWA, MKG, GRB, LSE). A plus sign is a headwind, a minus sign a tailwind.
| Height | Average wind | Head- or tailwind | Temperature | Ground speed | Time en route | Arrival |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 4,500 ft | 260° at 12 kt | +11 kt | 109 kt | 3 h 14 min | 11:15 pm CDT (04:15 UTC) | |
| 6,500 ft | 290° at 14 kt | +14 kt | 15 °C | 106 kt | 3 h 20 min | 11:21 pm CDT (04:21 UTC) |
| 8,500 ft | 300° at 15 kt | +15 kt | 11 °C | 105 kt | 3 h 22 min | 11:23 pm CDT (04:23 UTC) |
| 10,500 ft | 310° at 16 kt | +15 kt | 7 °C | 105 kt | 3 h 22 min | 11:23 pm CDT (04:23 UTC) |
| 12,500 ft | 310° at 17 kt | +15 kt | 3 °C | 105 kt | 3 h 22 min | 11:23 pm CDT (04:23 UTC) |
| 14,500 ft | 310° at 18 kt | +17 kt | -1 °C | 103 kt | 3 h 26 min | 11:27 pm CDT (04:27 UTC) |
| 16,500 ft | 310° at 20 kt | +19 kt | -6 °C | 101 kt | 3 h 30 min | 11:31 pm CDT (04:31 UTC) |
| 18,000 ft FL180 | 300° at 22 kt | +21 kt | -10 °C | 99 kt | 3 h 34 min | 11:35 pm CDT (04:35 UTC) |
| 24,000 ft FL240 | 320° at 33 kt | +29 kt | -21 °C | 91 kt | 3 h 53 min | 11:54 pm CDT (04:54 UTC) |
| 30,000 ft FL300 | 320° at 47 kt | +40 kt | -38 °C | 80 kt | 4 h 25 min | 12:26 am CDT (05:26 UTC) |
| 34,000 ft FL340 | 310° at 48 kt | +42 kt | -46 °C | 78 kt | 4 h 32 min | 12:33 am CDT (05:33 UTC) |
| 39,000 ft FL390 | 300° at 64 kt | +62 kt | -50 °C | 58 kt | 6 h 05 min | 2:06 am CDT (07:06 UTC) |
Based on data from the 11th at 18:00 UTC; valid on the 12th at 00:00 UTC for use 20:00 to 03:00 UTC; temperatures above 24,000 ft are below zero. Heights are above sea level; a height is left out when the forecast has no wind for it over most of the line (the ground is higher). Ground speed is the airspeed less the headwind; the time en route is for the straight line and ignores climb, descent and routing around weather.
The forecast points as issued
| Point | From | 3,000 | 6,000 | 9,000 | 12,000 | 18,000 | 24,000 | 30,000 | 34,000 | 39,000 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| FWA | used from 0 nm out; 98 nm from the line | 350/9 | 350/24 15° | 360/25 9° | 360/29 4° | 350/31 -10° | 340/39 -22° | 330/40 -37° | 320/38 -43° | 320/48 -48° |
| MKG | used from 49 nm out; 59 nm from the line | 250/5 | 320/10 15° | 310/19 9° | 320/21 3° | 310/23 -10° | 330/37 -22° | 330/51 -38° | 320/44 -47° | 300/60 -49° |
| GRB | used from 196 nm out; 70 nm from the line | 240/24 | 260/18 16° | 270/20 11° | 290/14 4° | 280/24 -9° | 300/34 -21° | 310/51 -38° | 310/54 -48° | 300/71 -51° |
| LSE | used from 294 nm out; 34 nm from the line | 220/33 | 250/29 17° | 250/15 9° | 260/12 6° | 280/21 -9° | 280/33 -20° | 300/43 -36° | 310/56 -45° | 300/79 -53° |
The weather now: both ends and the airports along the way public airports with a weather report within 25 nm of the line, one for each stretch
| Airport | Where | Conditions | Wind | Visibility | Ceiling | Elevation | Reported |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| YIP Detroit, MI | departure | no report just now | 715 ft | ||||
| JXN Jackson, MI | 39 nm out, 12 nm south of the line, tower | no report just now | 1,000 ft | ||||
| LAN Lansing, MI | 59 nm out, 16 nm northeast of the line, tower | no report just now | 860 ft | ||||
| GRR Grand Rapids, MI | 98 nm out, 9 nm northeast of the line, tower | no report just now | 793 ft | ||||
| MWC Milwaukee, WI | 206 nm out, 9 nm south of the line, tower | no report just now | 744 ft | ||||
| HXF Hartford, WI | 225 nm out, 1 nm east of the line | no report just now | 1,070 ft | ||||
| MSN Madison, WI | 265 nm out, 23 nm south of the line, tower | no report just now | 886 ft | ||||
| CMY Sparta, WI | 333 nm out, 10 nm north of the line, tower | no report just now | 839 ft | ||||
| LSE La Crosse, WI | destination | no report just now | 655 ft |
The highest airport on this list sits at 1,070 ft; the ground between airports is higher still. Check the sectional chart for the terrain and the minimum safe heights along the line.
At LSE when you get there the forecast at the estimated arrival, 11:15 pm CDT (04:15 UTC)
LSE has no terminal forecast; use the nearest airport that does.
Temporary flight restrictions on the line or within 25 nm of it
No temporary flight restriction on or near this route right now.
Daylight
Sunset at YIP 6:57 pm EDT (22:57 UTC), at LSE 6:26 pm CDT (23:26 UTC) (civil twilight ends 6:55 pm CDT (23:55 UTC)). At 120 knots the arrival at LSE is after sunset there (6:28 pm CDT (23:28 UTC)).
Each restriction opens the FAA's own page with the exact area, heights and times. Ordinary notices to air missions (closed runways, lights out) are not shown: the FAA's notice search is not open to sites like this one at this time.
Radar and forecast charts for the regions crossed government pictures, the latest each time the page loads
Sources: the Aviation Weather Center's data service (SIGMETs, AIRMETs, graphical AIRMETs, pilot reports, winds and temperatures aloft, observations and terminal forecasts), the National Weather Service radar, the Weather Prediction Center's charts, the FAA's temporary flight restriction list and shapes, and the FAA's airport file for the positions, elevations and magnetic variation. Fetched when the page is viewed and kept a few minutes. Each leg is the straight line between its two airports; airways, terrain and airspace are not considered. The airports in detail: Willow Run Airport, LA Crosse Regional.