Plan a flight · Sun 7:49 pm EDT (23:49 UTC)

Detroit Metro Wayne County to John Wayne/Orange County DTW → SNA

1,700 nautical miles (1,956 statute miles) west on a straight line, true course 264°, about 271° magnetic at the departure end (variation 7W). At 120 knots that is 16 h 11 min at the quickest height in today's winds (4,500 ft, a 15-knot headwind), arriving about 9:00 am PDT (16:00 UTC). Right now DTW is marginal VFR, wind from the north-northwest (340°) at 4 knots; SNA is VFR, wind from the south-southwest (210°) at 9 knots. For planning, not a briefing: the legal preflight briefing comes from Flight Service (1-800-WX-BRIEF) or the FAA's own tools. Airlines fly this pair: 685 flights in the DOT's last twelve reported months, the route's page.

The route the straight line, the warnings crossed, restrictions, pilot reports and the airports along the way · click a mark for its words

Green, blue, red and purple airport dots are the flying conditions reported there now (VFR, marginal VFR, IFR, low IFR); grey means no report. Red areas are SIGMETs, orange areas AIRMETs, hatched red areas temporary flight restrictions. Map tiles: OpenFreeMap, data © OpenStreetMap contributors.

Warnings the route crosses SIGMETs and AIRMETs whose area the line passes through or comes within 25 nm of

SIGMET W63W: thunderstorms (a convective SIGMET) up to 37,000 ft, moving from the southwest at 40 knots, until 8:55 pm EDT (00:55 UTC). Over the route from 1010 to 1250 nm out.

as issued

WSUS33 KKCI 112255
MKCW WST 112255
CONVECTIVE SIGMET 63W
VALID UNTIL 0055Z
CO NM AZ UT
FROM 30SSW MTU-30NW PUB-20NW TCC-60SE ABQ-40N SJN-30SSW MTU
AREA SEV TS MOV FROM 23040KT. TOPS TO FL370.
WIND GUSTS TO 50KT POSS.

SIGMET W64W: thunderstorms (a convective SIGMET) up to 37,000 ft, moving from the southwest at 40 knots, until 8:55 pm EDT (00:55 UTC). Over the route from 1400 to 1410 nm out.

as issued

WSUS33 KKCI 112255
MKCW WST 112255
CONVECTIVE SIGMET 64W
VALID UNTIL 0055Z
TX NM AZ
FROM 50ENE PGS-60SE ABQ-10W ELP-30E TUS-70SE EED-50ENE PGS
AREA TS MOV FROM 23040KT. TOPS TO FL370.

AIRMET SIERRA 3E: low cloud or poor visibility (IFR conditions) (due to ceilings below 1,000 ft, visibility below 3 miles, precipitation, mist). Over the first 30 nm of the route.
AIRMET TANGO 4W: moderate turbulence below 18,000 ft up to 18,000 ft. Over the route from 970 to 1530 nm out.
AIRMET TANGO 4W: moderate turbulence above 18,000 ft from 18,000 ft to 36,000 ft. Over the route from 1000 to 1620 nm out.
AIRMET SIERRA 1E: mountains obscured by cloud (due to mountains obscured by clouds, precipitation, mist). Over the route from 1090 to 1540 nm out.
AIRMET TANGO 1W: low-level wind shear (due to air speed loss or gain of 20 knots or more below 2,000 ft above the ground). Over the route from 1130 to 1170 nm out.
AIRMET TANGO 3W: strong surface winds (30 knots or more) (due to sustained surface winds greater than 30 knots). Over the route from 1240 to 1290 nm out.
AIRMET ZULU 3C: moderate icing up to 22,000 ft. Over the route from 1330 to 1610 nm out.
AIRMET SIERRA 2E: low cloud or poor visibility (IFR conditions) (due to ceilings below 1,000 ft, visibility below 3 miles, precipitation, mist). Over the route from 1380 to 1520 nm out.
AIRMET TANGO 1W: moderate turbulence below 18,000 ft (due to mountain wave) up to 12,000 ft. Over the route from 1540 to 1690 nm out.
AIRMET SIERRA 6E: mountains obscured by cloud (due to mountains obscured by clouds, precipitation, mist). Over the last 60 nm of the route.

A SIGMET warns of weather hazardous to all aircraft; an AIRMET of weather that matters to small aircraft and to flying without instruments. "From 60 to 180 nm out" is measured along the route from DTW.

Pilot reports along the route within 50 nm of the line, last three hours, the serious ones first

GLF5 at 45,000 ft, 47 nm north, 6:44 pm EDT (22:44 UTC): moderate turbulence, remarks: ZDVWC-46. 990 nm along the route, 47 nm north of the line.
as filed, and in English
```
COS UA /OV COS350025/TM 2244/FL450/TP GLF5/TB MOD /RM ZDVWC-46
```
Report
a routine report filed through COS
Where
25 nm north (350°) of COS
Time
22:44 UTC
Height
at 45,000 ft
Aircraft
GLF5
Turbulence
moderate
Remarks
ZDVWC-46
CRJ2 at 19,000 ft, 34 nm north, 6:02 pm EDT (22:02 UTC): moderate chop turbulence, remarks: during the climb from KDEN from 12,000 ft to 19,000 ft ZDVWC-41. 1000 nm along the route, 34 nm north of the line.
as filed, and in English
```
COS UA /OV BRK262015/TM 2202/FL190/TP CRJ2/TB MOD CHOP/RM DURC FROM KDEN 120-190 ZDVWC-41
```
Report
a routine report filed through COS
Where
15 nm west (262°) of BRK
Time
22:02 UTC
Height
at 19,000 ft
Aircraft
CRJ2
Turbulence
moderate chop
Remarks
during the climb from KDEN from 12,000 ft to 19,000 ft ZDVWC-41
E545 at 45,000 ft, 33 nm south, 6:29 pm EDT (22:29 UTC): moderate chop turbulence, remarks: zdvwc. 1190 nm along the route, 33 nm south of the line.
as filed, and in English
```
FMN UA /OV RSK2950301/TM 2229/FL450/TP E545/TB MOD CHOP/RM ZDVWC
```
Report
a routine report filed through FMN
Where
301 nm southwest (950°) of RSK2
Time
22:29 UTC
Height
at 45,000 ft
Aircraft
E545
Turbulence
moderate chop
Remarks
zdvwc
CL30 at 24,000 ft, 28 nm north, 5:00 pm EDT (21:00 UTC): moderate clear-air turbulence from 19,000 ft to 24,000 ft, light rime icing, -3 °C, remarks: during the climb zlawc. 1610 nm along the route, 28 nm north of the line.
as filed, and in English
```
DAG UA /OV HEC/TM 2100/FL240/TP CL30/TA M03/TB MOD CAT OCNL 190-240/IC LGT RIME/RM DURC ZLAWC AWC-WEB
```
Report
a routine report filed through DAG
Where
over HEC
Time
21:00 UTC
Height
at 24,000 ft
Aircraft
CL30
Temperature
−3 °C
Turbulence
moderate clear-air turbulence occasional from 19,000 ft to 24,000 ft
Icing
light rime
Remarks
during the climb zlawc
B737 at 14,000 ft, 30 nm northwest, 5:54 pm EDT (21:54 UTC): moderate turbulence. At the destination end, 30 nm northwest of the line.
as filed, and in English
```
ONT UA /OV 20N ONT/TM 2154/FL140/TP B737/TB MOD
```
Report
a routine report filed through ONT
Where
20N ont
Time
21:54 UTC
Height
at 14,000 ft
Aircraft
B737
Turbulence
moderate
B738 descending, 31 nm northwest, 5:37 pm EDT (21:37 UTC): moderate chop turbulence. At the destination end, 31 nm northwest of the line.
as filed, and in English
```
ONT UA /OV ONT358021/TM 2137/FLDURD/TP B738/TB MODERATE CHOP STARTING AT 130
```
Report
a routine report filed through ONT
Where
21 nm north (358°) of ONT
Time
21:37 UTC
Height
during the descent
Aircraft
B738
Turbulence
moderate chop starting at at 13,000 ft
GLF5 at 9,000 ft, 27 nm north, 7:13 pm EDT (23:13 UTC): overcast from 1,500 ft to 4,000 ft. At the departure end, 27 nm north of the line.
as filed, and in English
```
PTK UA /OV PTK 7E/TM 2313/FL090/TP GLF5/SK OVC015-TOP040
```
Report
a routine report filed through PTK
Where
ptk 7E
Time
23:13 UTC
Height
at 9,000 ft
Aircraft
GLF5
Sky
overcast from 1,500 ft, tops 4,000 ft
PA32 at 1,500 ft, 27 nm north, 7:03 pm EDT (23:03 UTC): overcast above 1,500 ft. At the departure end, 27 nm north of the line.
as filed, and in English
```
PTK UA /OV PTK 1W/TM 2303/FL015/TP PA32/SK OVC015
```
Report
a routine report filed through PTK
Where
ptk 1W
Time
23:03 UTC
Height
at 1,500 ft
Aircraft
PA32
Sky
overcast from 1,500 ft
E75S descending, 0 nm south, 7:01 pm EDT (23:01 UTC): a routine report with nothing remarked on. At the departure end, 0 nm south of the line.
as filed, and in English
```
DTW UA /OV RWY 3R/TM 2301/FLDURD/TP E75S/SK TOPS 020 BASES 010
```
Report
a routine report filed through DTW
Where
runway 3R
Time
23:01 UTC
Height
during the descent
Aircraft
E75S
Sky
tops 2,000 ft bases 1,000 ft
B712 at 300 ft, 0 nm south, 6:21 pm EDT (22:21 UTC): overcast, remarks: tops 4,000 ft bases 300 ft. At the departure end, 0 nm south of the line.
as filed, and in English
```
DTW UA /OV DTW/TM 2221/FL003/TP B712/SK OVC/RM TOPS 040 BASES 003
```
Report
a routine report filed through DTW
Where
over DTW
Time
22:21 UTC
Height
at 300 ft
Aircraft
B712
Sky
overcast
Remarks
tops 4,000 ft bases 300 ft
H25B at 1,500 ft, 27 nm north, 6:20 pm EDT (22:20 UTC): overcast above 1,700 ft. At the departure end, 27 nm north of the line.
as filed, and in English
```
PTK UA /OV PTK270001/TM 2220/FL015/TP H25B/SK OVC017-TOPUNKN
```
Report
a routine report filed through PTK
Where
1 nm west (270°) of PTK
Time
22:20 UTC
Height
at 1,500 ft
Aircraft
H25B
Sky
overcast from 1,700 ft, tops unknown
A320 descending, 0 nm south, 5:38 pm EDT (21:38 UTC): overcast, remarks: tops 3,500 ft bases 500 ft. At the departure end, 0 nm south of the line.
as filed, and in English
```
DTW UA /OV DTW/TM 2138/FLDURD/TP A320/SK OVC/RM TOPS 035 BASES 005
```
Report
a routine report filed through DTW
Where
over DTW
Time
21:38 UTC
Height
during the descent
Aircraft
A320
Sky
overcast
Remarks
tops 3,500 ft bases 500 ft
SR22 at 5,000 ft, 27 nm north, 5:14 pm EDT (21:14 UTC): no turbulence, overcast above 4,100 ft. At the departure end, 27 nm north of the line.
as filed, and in English
```
DTW UA /OV PTK/TM 2114/FL050/TP SR22/SK UKNOVC041/TB SMOOTH
```
Report
a routine report filed through DTW
Where
over PTK
Time
21:14 UTC
Height
at 5,000 ft
Aircraft
SR22
Sky
UKNOVC041
Turbulence
smooth
C25A at 1,900 ft, 27 nm north, 5:13 pm EDT (21:13 UTC): overcast, remarks: bases 1,900 ft. At the departure end, 27 nm north of the line.
as filed, and in English
```
PTK UA /OV 2 WEST/TM 2113/FL019/TP C25A/SK OVC/RM BASES 019
```
Report
a routine report filed through PTK
Where
2 west
Time
21:13 UTC
Height
at 1,900 ft
Aircraft
C25A
Sky
overcast
Remarks
bases 1,900 ft

16 more routine reports are on the map.

Winds aloft along the route, and the time en route the forecast for use 20:00–03:00 UTC · at 120 knots true airspeed

The westbound cruising heights for this course (VFR: even thousands plus 500 ft; above 18,000 ft the forecast levels), with the wind averaged along the line from the 15 forecast points nearest it (FWA, JOT, BRL, DSM, OMA, GRI, GLD, PUB, ALS, FMN, BCE, PRC, LAS, BLH, ONT). A plus sign is a headwind, a minus sign a tailwind.

Height	Average wind	Head- or tailwind	Temperature	Ground speed	Time en route	Arrival
4,500 ft	220° at 18 kt	+15 kt	16 °C	105 kt	16 h 11 min	9:00 am PDT (16:00 UTC)
6,500 ft	230° at 17 kt	+17 kt	14 °C	103 kt	16 h 30 min	9:19 am PDT (16:19 UTC)
8,500 ft	230° at 18 kt	+18 kt	11 °C	102 kt	16 h 40 min	9:29 am PDT (16:29 UTC)
10,500 ft	230° at 19 kt	+20 kt	7 °C	100 kt	17 h	9:49 am PDT (16:49 UTC)
12,500 ft	240° at 20 kt	+21 kt	3 °C	99 kt	17 h 10 min	9:59 am PDT (16:59 UTC)
14,500 ft	240° at 23 kt	+24 kt	-1 °C	96 kt	17 h 42 min	10:31 am PDT (17:31 UTC)
16,500 ft	240° at 26 kt	+27 kt	-6 °C	93 kt	18 h 17 min	11:06 am PDT (18:06 UTC)
18,000 ft FL180	240° at 29 kt	+29 kt	-9 °C	91 kt	18 h 41 min	11:30 am PDT (18:30 UTC)
24,000 ft FL240	240° at 33 kt	+34 kt	-20 °C	86 kt	19 h 46 min	12:35 pm PDT (19:35 UTC)
30,000 ft FL300	240° at 43 kt	+46 kt	-31 °C	74 kt	22 h 58 min	3:47 pm PDT (22:47 UTC)
34,000 ft FL340	250° at 48 kt	+51 kt	-39 °C	69 kt	24 h 38 min	5:27 pm PDT (00:27 UTC)
39,000 ft FL390	260° at 48 kt	+51 kt	-48 °C	69 kt	24 h 38 min	5:27 pm PDT (00:27 UTC)

Based on data from the 11th at 18:00 UTC; valid on the 12th at 00:00 UTC for use 20:00 to 03:00 UTC; temperatures above 24,000 ft are below zero. Heights are above sea level; a height is left out when the forecast has no wind for it over most of the line (the ground is higher). Ground speed is the airspeed less the headwind; the time en route is for the straight line and ignores climb, descent and routing around weather.

The forecast points as issued

Point	From	3,000	6,000	9,000	12,000	18,000	24,000	30,000	34,000	39,000
FWA	used from 0 nm out; 92 nm from the line	350/9	350/24 15°	360/25 9°	360/29 4°	350/31 -10°	340/39 -22°	330/40 -37°	320/38 -43°	320/48 -48°
JOT	used from 150 nm out; 46 nm from the line	230/11	290/12 16°	300/19 10°	320/19 4°	300/17 -9°	330/31 -20°	320/49 -37°	320/53 -45°	320/67 -49°
BRL	used from 300 nm out; 46 nm from the line	200/20	250/21 16°	240/22 10°	260/20 5°	270/16 -7°	290/22 -18°	320/41 -34°	320/56 -43°	310/68 -53°
DSM	used from 400 nm out; 51 nm from the line	200/32	240/27 17°	260/19 10°	260/16 5°	260/19 -7°	240/22 -19°	270/20 -32°	270/38 -42°	290/58 -53°
OMA	used from 500 nm out; 59 nm from the line	190/34	230/34 19°	250/25 12°	250/18 6°	250/22 -7°	250/28 -19°	260/34 -32°	260/39 -41°	280/56 -51°
GRI	used from 600 nm out; 73 nm from the line		210/31 19°	240/21 14°	240/17 6°	260/27 -7°	260/34 -18°	240/45 -32°	250/56 -40°	260/62 -51°
GLD	used from 750 nm out; 75 nm from the line		190/29	200/30 15°	240/23 8°	250/39 -7°	230/39 -19°	230/57 -31°	240/67 -39°	250/62 -49°
PUB	used from 900 nm out; 70 nm from the line			210/24 16°	210/28 8°	230/43 -8°	240/42 -21°	240/77 -30°	240/72 -36°	250/51 -47°
ALS	used from 1050 nm out; 35 nm from the line				210/32 5°	230/48 -8°	230/49 -20°	230/78 -30°	240/74 -36°	240/61 -47°
FMN	used from 1150 nm out; 38 nm from the line			220/25 13°	220/28 4°	210/51 -9°	220/59 -21°	230/78 -30°	230/77 -36°	230/66 -46°
BCE	used from 1300 nm out; 96 nm from the line				210/47 0°	200/50 -12°	220/31 -23°	220/56 -26°	220/58 -35°	230/58 -45°
PRC	used from 1350 nm out; 87 nm from the line			200/36 6°	210/46 0°	220/60 -10°	220/75 -19°	220/66 -26°	230/70 -33°	230/59 -45°
LAS	used from 1450 nm out; 79 nm from the line		200/25 11°	230/22 5°	240/25 -1°	220/37 -12°	220/44 -21°	210/52 -27°	210/60 -34°	220/58 -44°
BLH	used from 1550 nm out; 75 nm from the line	230/22	210/24 11°	230/23 5°	230/26 0°	220/38 -10°	230/52 -19°	220/58 -28°	220/69 -34°	220/59 -45°
ONT	used from 1600 nm out; 54 nm from the line	230/11	200/17 6°	230/27 4°	230/32 -2°	210/39 -12°	220/51 -20°	220/48 -29°	210/51 -34°	210/52 -44°

The weather now: both ends and the airports along the way public airports with a weather report within 25 nm of the line, one for each stretch

Airport	Where	Conditions	Wind	Visibility	Ceiling	Elevation	Reported
DTW Detroit, MI	departure	marginal VFR Sky: scattered clouds at 500 feet, scattered clouds at 900 feet, overcast at 2,500 feet	from the north-northwest (340°) at 4 knots	3 mi	2,500 ft	645 ft	7:35 pm EDT (23:35 UTC)
ARB Ann Arbor, MI	20 nm out, 4 nm northeast of the line, tower	reported, no category	calm		none	839 ft	22:53 UTC
MDW Chicago, IL	200 nm out, 2 nm east of the line, tower	VFR Sky: a few clouds at 25,000 feet	from the south-southwest (210°) at 5 knots	10+ mi	none	619 ft	22:53 UTC
OTM Ottumwa, IA	410 nm out, 3 nm southwest of the line	no report just now				845 ft
HJH Hebron, NE	650 nm out, 4 nm southwest of the line	VFR	from the south-southwest (200°) at 17 knots, gusting to 23	10+ mi	none	1,468 ft	23:35 UTC
CBK Colby, KS	820 nm out, 3 nm north of the line	VFR	from the south (190°) at 15 knots, gusting to 20	10+ mi	none	3,188 ft	23:15 UTC
PUB Pueblo, CO	990 nm out, 11 nm south of the line, tower	VFR	from the south-southwest (210°) at 16 knots, gusting to 29	10+ mi	none	4,729 ft	22:53 UTC
RCV Del Norte, CO	1090 nm out, 12 nm southeast of the line	VFR Sky: scattered clouds at 6,000 feet, a broken layer at 7,000 feet, a broken layer at 9,000 feet	from the east (090°) at 4 knots	10+ mi	7,000 ft	7,955 ft	23:35 UTC
CEZ Cortez, CO	1200 nm out, 6 nm north of the line	VFR Sky: a few clouds at 7,500 feet, scattered clouds at 9,000 feet	from the south-southwest (210°) at 26 knots, gusting to 36	10+ mi	none	5,917 ft	22:53 UTC
GCN Grand Canyon, AZ	1390 nm out, 4 nm east of the line, tower	IFR Sky: a broken layer at 500 feet, overcast at 1,000 feet Weather: mist	from the south-southwest (200°) at 13 knots, gusting to 21	3 mi	500 ft	6,608 ft	23:22 UTC
RIV Riverside, CA	1670 nm out, 4 nm east of the line, tower	VFR Sky: a few clouds at 2,500 feet, a broken layer at 4,000 feet, a broken layer at 12,000 feet Weather: nearby showers	from the south-southeast (160°) at 10 knots	10+ mi	4,000 ft	1,536 ft	22:55 UTC
SNA Santa Ana, CA	destination	VFR Sky: a few clouds at 3,200 feet, a broken layer at 3,900 feet, a broken layer at 4,800 feet	from the south-southwest (210°) at 9 knots	10+ mi	3,900 ft	55 ft	3:53 pm PDT (22:53 UTC)

The highest airport on this list sits at 7,955 ft; the ground between airports is higher still. Check the sectional chart for the terrain and the minimum safe heights along the line.

At SNA when you get there the forecast at the estimated arrival, 9:00 am PDT (16:00 UTC)

Wind from the south at 5 knots, visibility more than 6 miles, showers nearby, scattered clouds at 2,500 feet, a broken layer at 5,000 feet VFR

The whole forecast for SNA

From Sun 5:00 pm PDT (00:00 UTC): wind from the south-southwest at 9 knots, visibility more than 6 miles, a few clouds at 3,000 feet, a broken layer at 5,000 feet
From Sun 10:00 pm PDT (05:00 UTC): wind from the south at 5 knots, visibility more than 6 miles, showers nearby, scattered clouds at 2,500 feet, a broken layer at 5,000 feet
From Mon 12:00 pm PDT (19:00 UTC): wind from the southwest at 9 knots, visibility more than 6 miles, a broken layer at 5,000 feet

The forecast for DTW, the departure

From Sun 8:00 pm EDT (00:00 UTC): wind from the northeast at 4 knots, visibility more than 6 miles, a broken layer at 600 feet, overcast at 1,400 feet
From Sun 11:00 pm EDT (03:00 UTC): wind light and variable, visibility more than 6 miles, overcast at 1,400 feet
From Mon 3:00 am EDT (07:00 UTC): wind from the south-southwest at 4 knots, visibility more than 6 miles, a broken layer at 25,000 feet
At times between Mon 5:00 am EDT (09:00 UTC) and 9:00 am EDT (13:00 UTC): visibility 2 miles, mist, a broken layer at 400 feet
From Mon 10:00 am EDT (14:00 UTC): wind from the southwest at 11 knots, gusting to 22, visibility more than 6 miles, a broken layer at 25,000 feet
From Mon 8:00 pm EDT (00:00 UTC): wind from the south-southwest at 6 knots, visibility more than 6 miles, scattered clouds at 9,000 feet, a broken layer at 20,000 feet

Temporary flight restrictions on the line or within 25 nm of it

4/3635 DISNEYLAND THEME PARK, ANAHEIM,, CA 5 nm from the route, at the destination end · security · ZLA

Daylight

Sunset at DTW 6:58 pm EDT (22:58 UTC), at SNA 6:21 pm PDT (01:21 UTC) (civil twilight ends 6:46 pm PDT (01:46 UTC)).

Each restriction opens the FAA's own page with the exact area, heights and times. Ordinary notices to air missions (closed runways, lights out) are not shown: the FAA's notice search is not open to sites like this one at this time.

Radar and forecast charts for the regions crossed government pictures, the latest each time the page loads

Radar now, the central Great Lakes · loop National Weather Service

Radar now, the upper Mississippi valley · loop National Weather Service

Radar now, the northern Rockies · loop National Weather Service

Radar, the whole country · loop National Weather Service

Surface analysis now Weather Prediction Center

Forecast chart, 12 hours ahead Weather Prediction Center

Forecast chart, 24 hours ahead Weather Prediction Center

Sources: the Aviation Weather Center's data service (SIGMETs, AIRMETs, graphical AIRMETs, pilot reports, winds and temperatures aloft, observations and terminal forecasts), the National Weather Service radar, the Weather Prediction Center's charts, the FAA's temporary flight restriction list and shapes, and the FAA's airport file for the positions, elevations and magnetic variation. Fetched when the page is viewed and kept a few minutes. Each leg is the straight line between its two airports; airways, terrain and airspace are not considered. The airports in detail: Detroit Metro Wayne County, John Wayne/Orange County.