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Great Lakes 2T-1A-2 accident near Van Nuys, California, September 4, 1984

On September 4, 1984 at about 1:32 am local time, a Great Lakes 2T-1A-2, an amateur-built aircraft,, registered N3673L, was substantially damaged in an accident near Van Nuys, California (Van Nuys airport). It was an instructional flight under general aviation rules (Part 91). No one was hurt; 2 people were on board or involved. The weather was visual conditions (good weather).

The NTSB's probable cause their words, unchanged

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Source: NTSB aviation accident database, copy made October 5, 2026. Docket and reports at the NTSB.

What the record shows

Date
September 4, 1984 · about 1:32 am local time
Place
Van Nuys, California · Van Nuys · map
Type
Accident
Injuries
No one was hurt; 2 people were on board or involved.
Weather
visual conditions (good weather)
Aircraft
Great Lakes 2T-1A-2, amateur-built · all 2T-1A-2s on the register
Registration
N3673L · registry record · serial 0820
Damage
Substantial damage
Flight
Instructional flight · general aviation rules (Part 91)

The NTSB's narrative final · quoted from the NTSB record

DURING THE THIRD TOUCH & GO LANDING THE CERTIFICATED PLT RECEIVING DUAL INSTRUCTION WAS AT THE CONTROLS WHEN DIRECTIONAL CONTROL WAS TEMPORARILY LOST. THE CFI IN THE FRONT COCKPIT REGAINED CONTROL. SHORTLY THEREAFTER THE PLT UNDER INSTRUCTION APPLIED HEAVY BRAKING CAUSING THE ACFT TO NOSE OVER COMING TO REST INVERTED.

The complete narrative as the NTSB published it. The NTSB's docket holds the report as a PDF and any photographs, statements and other documents from the investigation.

The factual record from the NTSB's investigation tables, in plain English

Pilot

  • Certificate: flight instructor, commercial pilot
  • Ratings: multi-engine land; single-engine land; instructor: airplane multi-engine; instructor: airplane single-engine; instrument: airplane
  • Flight time: 1,047 hours in all; 35 in this make and model; 317 in the last 90 days; 906 as pilot in command
  • Medical certificate: Class 1 (valid medical--no waivers/lim.)
  • Seat: rear

The aircraft

  • Airframe total time: 669 hours
  • Last inspection: 100-hour inspection, August 20, 1984; 12 hours since
  • Maximum gross weight: 1,580 lb
  • Seats: 2
  • Landing gear: fixed
  • Engine: Lycoming AEIO-360 (piston); 0 hours total
  • Operator: California Aviation

The flight

  • Departed from: SMO Santa Monica CA
  • Destination: VNY Van Nuys CA
  • Flight plan: none
  • Runway 34R, 4,000 ft by 75 ft
  • A second pilot was aboard

Weather at the time

  • Light: daylight
  • Wind: from 300° at 10 knots
  • Visibility: 25 statute miles
  • Sky: clear
  • Temperature: 91°F (33°C), dew point 57°F (14°C)
  • Altimeter: 29.00 inHg
  • Observation at 6:33 pm from VNY

Injuries

FatalSeriousMinorNone
Crew2

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