Oakland County International to St. Louis Lambert International PTK → STL
394 nautical miles (453 statute miles) southwest on a straight line, true course 236°, about 243° magnetic at the departure end (variation 7W). At 120 knots that is 3 h 24 min at the quickest height in today's winds (12,500 ft, a 4-knot headwind), arriving about 4:10 am CDT (09:10 UTC), after sunset at the destination. Right now PTK is IFR, wind from the west-southwest (240°) at 5 knots; STL is VFR, wind from the south (180°) at 8 knots. For planning, not a briefing: the legal preflight briefing comes from Flight Service (1-800-WX-BRIEF) or the FAA's own tools. Airlines fly this pair: 2 flights in the DOT's last twelve reported months, the route's page.
The route the straight line, the warnings crossed, restrictions, pilot reports and the airports along the way · click a mark for its words
Green, blue, red and purple airport dots are the flying conditions reported there now (VFR, marginal VFR, IFR, low IFR); grey means no report. Red areas are SIGMETs, orange areas AIRMETs, hatched red areas temporary flight restrictions. Map tiles: OpenFreeMap, data © OpenStreetMap contributors.
Warnings the route crosses SIGMETs and AIRMETs whose area the line passes through or comes within 25 nm of
- AIRMET SIERRA 3E: low cloud or poor visibility (IFR conditions) (due to ceilings below 1,000 ft, visibility below 3 miles, precipitation, mist). Over the first 187 nm of the route.
A SIGMET warns of weather hazardous to all aircraft; an AIRMET of weather that matters to small aircraft and to flying without instruments. "From 60 to 180 nm out" is measured along the route from PTK.
Pilot reports along the route within 50 nm of the line, last three hours, the serious ones first
- B739 descending, 24 nm southeast, 12:54 am EDT (04:54 UTC): a routine report with nothing remarked on. At the departure end, 24 nm southeast of the line.
as filed, and in English
DTW UA /OV DTW/TM 0454/FLDURD/TP B739/SK BASES 011
- Report
- a routine report filed through DTW
- Where
- over DTW
- Time
- 04:54 UTC
- Height
- during the descent
- Aircraft
- B739
- Sky
- bases 1,100 ft
- A320 descending, 24 nm southeast, 11:27 pm EDT (03:27 UTC): overcast above 1,400 ft. At the departure end, 24 nm southeast of the line.
as filed, and in English
DTW UA /OV DTW/TM 0327/FLDURD/TP A320/SK 014 OVC
- Report
- a routine report filed through DTW
- Where
- over DTW
- Time
- 03:27 UTC
- Height
- during the descent
- Aircraft
- A320
- Sky
- at 1,400 ft overcast
- B738 at 1,800 ft, 44 nm southeast, 1:18 am EDT (05:18 UTC): overcast from 1,800 ft to 2,700 ft, remarks: during the climb. 49 nm along the route, 44 nm southeast of the line.
as filed, and in English
TOL UA /OV KTOL/TM 0518/FL018/TP B738/SK OVC018-TOP027/RM DURC
- Report
- a routine report filed through TOL
- Where
- over KTOL
- Time
- 05:18 UTC
- Height
- at 1,800 ft
- Aircraft
- B738
- Sky
- overcast from 1,800 ft, tops 2,700 ft
- Remarks
- during the climb
- B738 at 1,300 ft, 44 nm southeast, 12:45 am EDT (04:45 UTC): overcast from 1,300 ft to 3,000 ft, remarks: during the descent. 49 nm along the route, 44 nm southeast of the line.
as filed, and in English
TOL UA /OV KTOL/TM 0445/FL013/TP B738/SK OVC013-TOP030/RM DURD
- Report
- a routine report filed through TOL
- Where
- over KTOL
- Time
- 04:45 UTC
- Height
- at 1,300 ft
- Aircraft
- B738
- Sky
- overcast from 1,300 ft, tops 3,000 ft
- Remarks
- during the descent
- LJ45 at 10,000 ft, 17 nm southeast, 12:31 am EDT (04:31 UTC): no turbulence, clear, remarks: ground fog at fwa FV10SM on final runway 14. 128 nm along the route, 17 nm southeast of the line.
as filed, and in English
FWA UA /OV OLK/TM 0431/FL100/TP LJ45/SK CLR/TB SMOOTH/RM GROUND FOG AT FWA. FV10SM ON FINAL RY 14
- Report
- a routine report filed through FWA
- Where
- over OLK
- Time
- 04:31 UTC
- Height
- at 10,000 ft
- Aircraft
- LJ45
- Sky
- clear
- Turbulence
- smooth
- Remarks
- ground fog at fwa FV10SM on final runway 14
- B38M at 29,000 ft, 24 nm northwest, 12:52 am EDT (04:52 UTC): no turbulence from 23,000 ft to 29,000 ft. 246 nm along the route, 24 nm northwest of the line.
as filed, and in English
TIP UA /OV RBS/TM 0452/FL290/TP B38M/TB NEG 230-290
- Report
- a routine report filed through TIP
- Where
- over RBS
- Time
- 04:52 UTC
- Height
- at 29,000 ft
- Aircraft
- B38M
- Turbulence
- no from 23,000 ft to 29,000 ft
Winds aloft along the route, and the time en route the forecast for use 02:00–09:00 UTC · at 120 knots true airspeed
The westbound cruising heights for this course (VFR: even thousands plus 500 ft; above 18,000 ft the forecast levels), with the wind averaged along the line from the 4 forecast points nearest it (FWA, JOT, SPI, STL). A plus sign is a headwind, a minus sign a tailwind.
| Height | Average wind | Head- or tailwind | Temperature | Ground speed | Time en route | Arrival |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 4,500 ft | 270° at 17 kt | +13 kt | 107 kt | 3 h 41 min | 4:27 am CDT (09:27 UTC) | |
| 6,500 ft | 290° at 18 kt | +11 kt | 15 °C | 109 kt | 3 h 37 min | 4:23 am CDT (09:23 UTC) |
| 8,500 ft | 290° at 18 kt | +10 kt | 11 °C | 110 kt | 3 h 35 min | 4:21 am CDT (09:21 UTC) |
| 10,500 ft | 300° at 14 kt | +7 kt | 7 °C | 113 kt | 3 h 29 min | 4:15 am CDT (09:15 UTC) |
| 12,500 ft | 300° at 12 kt | +4 kt | 3 °C | 116 kt | 3 h 24 min | 4:10 am CDT (09:10 UTC) |
| 14,500 ft | 300° at 16 kt | +7 kt | -1 °C | 113 kt | 3 h 29 min | 4:15 am CDT (09:15 UTC) |
| 16,500 ft | 290° at 20 kt | +10 kt | -4 °C | 110 kt | 3 h 35 min | 4:21 am CDT (09:21 UTC) |
| 18,000 ft FL180 | 290° at 24 kt | +13 kt | -7 °C | 107 kt | 3 h 41 min | 4:27 am CDT (09:27 UTC) |
| 24,000 ft FL240 | 300° at 31 kt | +13 kt | -20 °C | 107 kt | 3 h 41 min | 4:27 am CDT (09:27 UTC) |
| 30,000 ft FL300 | 310° at 37 kt | +7 kt | -35 °C | 113 kt | 3 h 29 min | 4:15 am CDT (09:15 UTC) |
| 34,000 ft FL340 | 310° at 53 kt | +10 kt | -43 °C | 110 kt | 3 h 35 min | 4:21 am CDT (09:21 UTC) |
| 39,000 ft FL390 | 310° at 56 kt | +9 kt | -51 °C | 111 kt | 3 h 33 min | 4:19 am CDT (09:19 UTC) |
Based on data from the 12th at 00:00 UTC; valid on the 12th at 06:00 UTC for use 02:00 to 09:00 UTC; temperatures above 24,000 ft are below zero. Heights are above sea level; a height is left out when the forecast has no wind for it over most of the line (the ground is higher). Ground speed is the airspeed less the headwind; the time en route is for the straight line and ignores climb, descent and routing around weather.
The forecast points as issued
| Point | From | 3,000 | 6,000 | 9,000 | 12,000 | 18,000 | 24,000 | 30,000 | 34,000 | 39,000 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| FWA | used from 0 nm out; 105 nm from the line | 300/17 | 320/20 16° | 330/20 10° | 340/15 3° | 310/27 -8° | 320/37 -20° | 330/52 -36° | 330/65 -43° | 330/60 -50° |
| JOT | used from 197 nm out; 69 nm from the line | 250/23 | 270/22 15° | 250/16 10° | 240/9 4° | 280/22 -7° | 280/29 -19° | 300/29 -34° | 290/50 -43° | 300/64 -52° |
| SPI | used from 246 nm out; 65 nm from the line | 220/21 | 250/23 16° | 260/27 9° | 270/14 6° | 270/23 -7° | 270/31 -19° | 270/28 -33° | 290/48 -42° | 300/55 -52° |
| STL | used from 345 nm out; 25 nm from the line | 250/24 | 250/24 16° | 260/23 9° | 270/16 6° | 260/25 -6° | 270/29 -19° | 290/34 -33° | 290/48 -41° | 290/54 -51° |
The weather now: both ends and the airports along the way public airports with a weather report within 25 nm of the line, one for each stretch
| Airport | Where | Conditions | Wind | Visibility | Ceiling | Elevation | Reported |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| PTK Pontiac, MI | departure | IFR Sky: overcast at 900 feet | from the west-southwest (240°) at 5 knots | 10+ mi | 900 ft | 980 ft | 1:26 am EDT (05:26 UTC) |
| ARB Ann Arbor, MI | 30 nm out, 14 nm southeast of the line, tower | reported, no category | calm | none | 839 ft | 04:53 UTC | |
| JXN Jackson, MI | 49 nm out, 7 nm northwest of the line, tower | low IFR Weather: fog | from the southwest (220°) at 4 knots | 0.5 mi | none | 1,000 ft | 05:38 UTC |
| EKM Elkhart, IN | 128 nm out, 20 nm northwest of the line, tower | marginal VFR Weather: mist | calm | 4 mi | none | 777 ft | 05:35 UTC |
| ASW Warsaw, IN | 138 nm out, 6 nm southeast of the line | VFR | calm | 7 mi | none | 849 ft | 05:35 UTC |
| LAF Lafayette, IN | 207 nm out, 18 nm southeast of the line, tower | VFR Sky: a few clouds at 200 feet | calm | 9 mi | none | 605 ft | 05:35 UTC |
| TIP Rantoul, IL | 256 nm out, 9 nm northwest of the line | VFR | calm | 10+ mi | none | 737 ft | 05:35 UTC |
| CMI Champaign/Urbana, IL | 266 nm out, 4 nm southwest of the line, tower | VFR | from the south (180°) at 4 knots | 10+ mi | none | 754 ft | 04:53 UTC |
| TAZ Taylorville, IL | 325 nm out, 7 nm northwest of the line | no report just now | 622 ft | ||||
| ALN Alton/St Louis, IL | 374 nm out, 4 nm south of the line, tower | VFR | from the south (180°) at 6 knots | 10+ mi | none | 543 ft | 05:35 UTC |
| STL St Louis, MO | destination | VFR Sky: a few clouds at 25,000 feet | from the south (180°) at 8 knots | 10+ mi | none | 617 ft | 11:51 pm CDT (04:51 UTC) |
The highest airport on this list sits at 1,000 ft; the ground between airports is higher still. Check the sectional chart for the terrain and the minimum safe heights along the line.
At STL when you get there the forecast at the estimated arrival, 4:10 am CDT (09:10 UTC)
Wind from the south-southwest at 7 knots, visibility more than 6 miles, scattered clouds at 25,000 feet VFR
The whole forecast for STL
- From Mon 1:00 am CDT (06:00 UTC): wind from the south-southwest at 7 knots, visibility more than 6 miles, scattered clouds at 25,000 feet
- From Mon 11:00 am CDT (16:00 UTC): wind from the southwest at 12 knots, gusting to 20, visibility more than 6 miles, a few clouds at 25,000 feet
- From Mon 6:00 pm CDT (23:00 UTC): wind from the southwest at 8 knots, visibility more than 6 miles, a few clouds at 25,000 feet
The forecast for PTK, the departure
- From Mon 2:00 am EDT (06:00 UTC): wind light and variable, visibility more than 6 miles, overcast at 1,200 feet
- From Mon 3:00 am EDT (07:00 UTC): wind from the southwest at 3 knots, visibility 5 miles, mist, scattered clouds at 25,000 feet
- At times between Mon 5:00 am EDT (09:00 UTC) and 9:00 am EDT (13:00 UTC): visibility ½ mile, fog, sky obscured at 300 feet
- From Mon 10:00 am EDT (14:00 UTC): wind from the southwest at 8 knots, visibility more than 6 miles, a broken layer at 25,000 feet
- From Mon 12:00 pm EDT (16:00 UTC): wind from the southwest at 11 knots, gusting to 22, visibility more than 6 miles, a broken layer at 25,000 feet
- From Mon 8:00 pm EDT (00:00 UTC): wind from the south-southwest at 7 knots, visibility more than 6 miles, scattered clouds at 9,000 feet, a broken layer at 20,000 feet
Temporary flight restrictions on the line or within 25 nm of it
No temporary flight restriction on or near this route right now.
Daylight
Sunset at PTK 6:56 pm EDT (22:56 UTC), at STL 6:27 pm CDT (23:27 UTC) (civil twilight ends 6:54 pm CDT (23:54 UTC)). At 120 knots the arrival at STL is before sunrise there (7:07 am CDT (12:07 UTC)).
Each restriction opens the FAA's own page with the exact area, heights and times. Ordinary notices to air missions (closed runways, lights out) are not shown: the FAA's notice search is not open to sites like this one at this time.
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Sources: the Aviation Weather Center's data service (SIGMETs, AIRMETs, graphical AIRMETs, pilot reports, winds and temperatures aloft, observations and terminal forecasts), the National Weather Service radar, the Weather Prediction Center's charts, the FAA's temporary flight restriction list and shapes, and the FAA's airport file for the positions, elevations and magnetic variation. Fetched when the page is viewed and kept a few minutes. Each leg is the straight line between its two airports; airways, terrain and airspace are not considered. The airports in detail: Oakland County International, St. Louis Lambert International.
