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Piper J3 accident near Green Valley, Arizona, October 24, 1985

On October 24, 1985 at about 10:30 pm local time, a Piper J3, registered N33461, was substantially damaged in an accident near Green Valley, Arizona. It was a personal flight under general aviation rules (Part 91). No one was hurt; 1 person was on board or involved. The weather was conditions the NTSB did not record.

The NTSB's probable cause their words, unchanged

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Source: NTSB aviation accident database, copy made October 5, 2026. Docket and reports at the NTSB.

What the record shows

Date
October 24, 1985 · about 10:30 pm local time
Place
Green Valley, Arizona · map
Type
Accident
Injuries
No one was hurt; 1 person was on board or involved.
Weather
conditions the NTSB did not record
Aircraft
Piper J3 · all J3s on the register
Registration
N33461 · registry record · serial 5970
Damage
Substantial damage
Flight
Personal flight · general aviation rules (Part 91)

The NTSB's narrative final · quoted from the NTSB record

ON OCT 24, 1985, A PIPER J3 CUB,N33461, MADE AN EMERGENCY LANDING IN ROUGH, OPEN TERRAIN NEAR GREEN VALLEY, AZ. AFTER EXPERIENCING A LOSS OF ENGINE POWER THE AC SUSTAINED SUBSTANTIAL DAMAGE AND THE PVT PLT WAS NOT INJURED. THE INVESTIGATION REVEALED THAT THE THROTTLE HANDLE TO THE LINKAGE TUBE SEPARATED WHILE THE ENGINE WAS AT IDLE POWER LEAVING THE PLT WITH NO CONTROL OVER THE ENGINE.

The complete narrative as the NTSB published it. The NTSB's docket holds the report as a PDF and any photographs, statements and other documents from the investigation.

The factual record from the NTSB's investigation tables, in plain English

Pilot

  • Certificate: private
  • Ratings: single-engine land
  • Flight time: 420 hours in all; 24 in this make and model; 54 in the last 90 days
  • Medical certificate: Class 3 (valid medical--w/ waivers/lim.)
  • Seat: rear

The aircraft

  • Airframe total time: 2,493 hours
  • Last inspection: annual inspection, June 15, 1985
  • Maximum gross weight: 1,220 lb
  • Seats: 2
  • Landing gear: fixed
  • Engine: Franklin 4AC-176B2 (piston); 0 hours total

The flight

  • Flight plan: none
  • Runway 0

Weather at the time

  • Light: daylight
  • Visibility: 50 statute miles
  • Sky: clear
  • Temperature: 81°F (27°C), dew point 0°F (-18°C)

Injuries

FatalSeriousMinorNone
Crew1

Documents from the investigation the NTSB's docket: the evidence folder behind the report

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