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Piper PA-32R-301T accident near Lordsburg, New Mexico, June 27, 1985

On June 27, 1985 at about 4:35 pm local time, a Piper PA-32R-301T, registered N8180F, was substantially damaged in an accident near Lordsburg, New Mexico. It was a personal flight under general aviation rules (Part 91). No one was hurt; 5 people were on board or involved. The weather was visual conditions (good weather).

The NTSB's probable cause their words, unchanged

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Source: NTSB aviation accident database, copy made October 5, 2026. Docket and reports at the NTSB.

What the record shows

Date
June 27, 1985 · about 4:35 pm local time
Place
Lordsburg, New Mexico · map
Type
Accident
Injuries
No one was hurt; 5 people were on board or involved.
Weather
visual conditions (good weather)
Aircraft
Piper PA-32R-301T PA-32R-301 · all PA-32R-301Ts on the register
Registration
N8180F · registry record · serial 32R-8029076
Damage
Substantial damage
Flight
Personal flight · general aviation rules (Part 91)

The NTSB's narrative final · quoted from the NTSB record

THE PLT ATTEMPTED TO TAKE OFF FROM A DIRT ROAD AT OR NEAR MAX GROSS WIEGHT AND AT HIGH DENSITY ALT CONDITIONS. THE PLT SAID THERE WAS A SMALL RISE IN THE ROAD AND HE EASED BACK ON THE CONTROL YOKE. DIRECTIONAL CONTROL WAS LOST AND THE AIRPLANE SKIDDED OFF THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE ROAD, STRIKING TWO MOUNDS OF DIRT. THE PLT SAID HE RECALLED THE LAST INDICATED AIRSPEED READOUT AS BEING 65 KTS.

The complete narrative as the NTSB published it. The NTSB's docket holds the report as a PDF and any photographs, statements and other documents from the investigation.

The factual record from the NTSB's investigation tables, in plain English

Pilot

  • Certificate: private
  • Ratings: single-engine land
  • Flight time: 1,501 hours in all; 242 in this make and model; 15 in the last 90 days; 1,373 as pilot in command
  • Medical certificate: Class 2 (valid medical--w/ waivers/lim.)
  • Seat: left

The aircraft

  • Airframe total time: 1,091 hours
  • Last inspection: annual inspection, July 2, 1984; 466 hours since
  • Maximum gross weight: 3,600 lb
  • Seats: 7
  • Landing gear: retractable
  • Engine: Lycoming TIO-540-S1AD (piston); 0 hours total

The flight

  • Destination: ABQ Albuquerque NM
  • Flight plan: VFR
  • Runway 0

Weather at the time

  • Light: daylight
  • Wind: from 080° at 15 knots, gusting 20
  • Visibility: 60 statute miles
  • Sky: clear
  • Temperature: 81°F (27°C), dew point 43°F (6°C)
  • Altimeter: 30.00 inHg
  • Observation at 4:48 pm from DMN, 56 miles away

Injuries

FatalSeriousMinorNone
Crew1
Passengers4

Documents from the investigation the NTSB's docket: the evidence folder behind the report

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