Oakland County International to Friedman Memorial PTK → SUN
1,347 nautical miles (1,550 statute miles) west on a straight line, true course 283°, about 290° magnetic at the departure end (variation 7W). At 120 knots that is 11 h 49 min at the quickest height in today's winds (4,500 ft, a 6-knot headwind), arriving about 6:00 am MDT (12:00 UTC), after sunset at the destination. Right now PTK is IFR, wind calm; SUN is marginal VFR, wind from the east-southeast (120°) at 5 knots. For planning, not a briefing: the legal preflight briefing comes from Flight Service (1-800-WX-BRIEF) or the FAA's own tools. Airlines fly this pair: 1 flights in the DOT's last twelve reported months, the route's page.
The route the straight line, the warnings crossed, restrictions, pilot reports and the airports along the way · click a mark for its words
Green, blue, red and purple airport dots are the flying conditions reported there now (VFR, marginal VFR, IFR, low IFR); grey means no report. Red areas are SIGMETs, orange areas AIRMETs, hatched red areas temporary flight restrictions. Map tiles: OpenFreeMap, data © OpenStreetMap contributors.
Warnings the route crosses SIGMETs and AIRMETs whose area the line passes through or comes within 25 nm of
- SIGMET W70W: thunderstorms (a convective SIGMET) up to 32,000 ft, moving from the southwest at 40 knots, until 9:55 pm EDT (01:55 UTC). Over the route from 968 to 1128 nm out.
as issued
WSUS33 KKCI 112355 MKCW WST 112355 CONVECTIVE SIGMET 70W VALID UNTIL 0155Z MT WY FROM 30SSW MLS-60WNW BFF-40SSE OCS-10S BPI-10S BIL-30SSW MLS AREA TS MOV FROM 22040KT. TOPS TO FL320.
- SIGMET W71W: thunderstorms (a convective SIGMET) up to 27,000 ft, moving from the south at 40 knots, until 9:55 pm EDT (01:55 UTC). Near the route, 1257 nm along the route.
as issued
WSUS33 KKCI 112355 MKCW WST 112355 CONVECTIVE SIGMET 71W VALID UNTIL 0155Z WY UT ID FROM 40S DBS-40WNW BPI-30WSW MTU-30SSW DTA-30SE TWF-40S DBS AREA EMBD TS MOV FROM 20040KT. TOPS TO FL270.
- AIRMET SIERRA 3E: low cloud or poor visibility (IFR conditions) (due to ceilings below 1,000 ft, visibility below 3 miles, precipitation, mist). Over the first 20 nm of the route.
- AIRMET TANGO 4W: moderate turbulence above 18,000 ft from 18,000 ft to 36,000 ft. Over the last 489 nm of the route.
- AIRMET TANGO 4W: moderate turbulence below 18,000 ft up to 18,000 ft. Over the route from 988 to 1227 nm out.
- AIRMET SIERRA 4E: low cloud or poor visibility (IFR conditions) (due to ceilings below 1,000 ft, visibility below 3 miles, precipitation, mist). Over the last 329 nm of the route.
- AIRMET TANGO 1W: low-level wind shear (due to air speed loss or gain of 20 knots or more below 2,000 ft above the ground). Over the route from 1018 to 1207 nm out.
- AIRMET SIERRA 1E: mountains obscured by cloud (due to mountains obscured by clouds, precipitation, mist). Over the last 329 nm of the route.
- AIRMET ZULU 3C: moderate icing up to 22,000 ft. Over the last 190 nm of the route.
A SIGMET warns of weather hazardous to all aircraft; an AIRMET of weather that matters to small aircraft and to flying without instruments. "From 60 to 180 nm out" is measured along the route from PTK.
Pilot reports along the route within 50 nm of the line, last three hours, the serious ones first
- B738 at 33,000 ft, 46 nm north, 7:57 pm EDT (23:57 UTC): moderate chop turbulence from 31,000 ft to 33,000 ft. 1237 nm along the route, 46 nm north of the line.
as filed, and in English
IDA UA /OV DBS015030/TM 2357/FL330/TP B738/TB MOD CHOP 310-330 /ZLC
- Report
- a routine report filed through IDA
- Where
- 30 nm north (015°) of DBS
- Time
- 23:57 UTC
- Height
- at 33,000 ft
- Aircraft
- B738
- Turbulence
- moderate chop from 31,000 ft to 33,000 ft zlc
- GLF5 at 9,000 ft, 0 nm south, 7:13 pm EDT (23:13 UTC): overcast from 1,500 ft to 4,000 ft. At the departure end, 0 nm south of the line.
as filed, and in English
PTK UA /OV PTK 7E/TM 2313/FL090/TP GLF5/SK OVC015-TOP040
- Report
- a routine report filed through PTK
- Where
- ptk 7E
- Time
- 23:13 UTC
- Height
- at 9,000 ft
- Aircraft
- GLF5
- Sky
- overcast from 1,500 ft, tops 4,000 ft
- PA32 at 1,500 ft, 0 nm south, 7:03 pm EDT (23:03 UTC): overcast above 1,500 ft. At the departure end, 0 nm south of the line.
as filed, and in English
PTK UA /OV PTK 1W/TM 2303/FL015/TP PA32/SK OVC015
- Report
- a routine report filed through PTK
- Where
- ptk 1W
- Time
- 23:03 UTC
- Height
- at 1,500 ft
- Aircraft
- PA32
- Sky
- overcast from 1,500 ft
- E75S descending, 27 nm south, 7:01 pm EDT (23:01 UTC): a routine report with nothing remarked on. At the departure end, 27 nm south of the line.
as filed, and in English
DTW UA /OV RWY 3R/TM 2301/FLDURD/TP E75S/SK TOPS 020 BASES 010
- Report
- a routine report filed through DTW
- Where
- runway 3R
- Time
- 23:01 UTC
- Height
- during the descent
- Aircraft
- E75S
- Sky
- tops 2,000 ft bases 1,000 ft
- E55P descending, 26 nm south, 7:00 pm EDT (23:00 UTC): a routine report with nothing remarked on. At the departure end, 26 nm south of the line.
as filed, and in English
YIP UA /OV KYIP/TM 2300/FLDURD/TP E55P/SK B015
- Report
- a routine report filed through YIP
- Where
- over KYIP
- Time
- 23:00 UTC
- Height
- during the descent
- Aircraft
- E55P
- Sky
- B015
- B712 at 300 ft, 27 nm south, 6:21 pm EDT (22:21 UTC): overcast, remarks: tops 4,000 ft bases 300 ft. At the departure end, 27 nm south of the line.
as filed, and in English
DTW UA /OV DTW/TM 2221/FL003/TP B712/SK OVC/RM TOPS 040 BASES 003
- Report
- a routine report filed through DTW
- Where
- over DTW
- Time
- 22:21 UTC
- Height
- at 300 ft
- Aircraft
- B712
- Sky
- overcast
- Remarks
- tops 4,000 ft bases 300 ft
- H25B at 1,500 ft, 1 nm west, 6:20 pm EDT (22:20 UTC): overcast above 1,700 ft. At the departure end, 1 nm west of the line.
as filed, and in English
PTK UA /OV PTK270001/TM 2220/FL015/TP H25B/SK OVC017-TOPUNKN
- Report
- a routine report filed through PTK
- Where
- 1 nm west (270°) of PTK
- Time
- 22:20 UTC
- Height
- at 1,500 ft
- Aircraft
- H25B
- Sky
- overcast from 1,700 ft, tops unknown
- BE36 at 3,000 ft, 17 nm southwest, 6:20 pm EDT (22:20 UTC): no turbulence, imc. At the departure end, 17 nm southwest of the line.
as filed, and in English
DTW UA /OV SVM/TM 2220/FL030/TP BE36/SK IMC/TB SMOOTH
- Report
- a routine report filed through DTW
- Where
- over SVM
- Time
- 22:20 UTC
- Height
- at 3,000 ft
- Aircraft
- BE36
- Sky
- instrument conditions
- Turbulence
- smooth
- A320 descending, 27 nm south, 5:38 pm EDT (21:38 UTC): overcast, remarks: tops 3,500 ft bases 500 ft. At the departure end, 27 nm south of the line.
as filed, and in English
DTW UA /OV DTW/TM 2138/FLDURD/TP A320/SK OVC/RM TOPS 035 BASES 005
- Report
- a routine report filed through DTW
- Where
- over DTW
- Time
- 21:38 UTC
- Height
- during the descent
- Aircraft
- A320
- Sky
- overcast
- Remarks
- tops 3,500 ft bases 500 ft
- SR22 at 5,000 ft, 0 nm south, 5:14 pm EDT (21:14 UTC): no turbulence, overcast above 4,100 ft. At the departure end, 0 nm south of the line.
as filed, and in English
DTW UA /OV PTK/TM 2114/FL050/TP SR22/SK UKNOVC041/TB SMOOTH
- Report
- a routine report filed through DTW
- Where
- over PTK
- Time
- 21:14 UTC
- Height
- at 5,000 ft
- Aircraft
- SR22
- Sky
- UKNOVC041
- Turbulence
- smooth
- C25A at 1,900 ft, 0 nm south, 5:13 pm EDT (21:13 UTC): overcast, remarks: bases 1,900 ft. At the departure end, 0 nm south of the line.
as filed, and in English
PTK UA /OV 2 WEST/TM 2113/FL019/TP C25A/SK OVC/RM BASES 019
- Report
- a routine report filed through PTK
- Where
- 2 west
- Time
- 21:13 UTC
- Height
- at 1,900 ft
- Aircraft
- C25A
- Sky
- overcast
- Remarks
- bases 1,900 ft
- TBM8 at 1,600 ft, 28 nm south, 5:24 pm EDT (21:24 UTC): overcast above 1,600 ft. At the departure end, 28 nm south of the line.
as filed, and in English
ARB UA /OV ARB060001/TM 2124/FL016/TP TBM8/SK OVC016
- Report
- a routine report filed through ARB
- Where
- 1 nm northeast (060°) of ARB
- Time
- 21:24 UTC
- Height
- at 1,600 ft
- Aircraft
- TBM8
- Sky
- overcast from 1,600 ft
- CRJ2 descending, 15 nm north, 6:30 pm EDT (22:30 UTC): overcast from 1,900 ft to 2,900 ft. At the departure end, 15 nm north of the line.
as filed, and in English
FNT UA /OV FNT/TM 2230/FLDURD/TP CRJ2/SK OVC019 - TOP029
- Report
- a routine report filed through FNT
- Where
- over FNT
- Time
- 22:30 UTC
- Height
- during the descent
- Aircraft
- CRJ2
- Sky
- overcast from 1,900 ft, tops 2,900 ft
- C172 descending, 15 nm north, 5:32 pm EDT (21:32 UTC): overcast above 1,800 ft. At the departure end, 15 nm north of the line.
as filed, and in English
FNT UA /OV KFNT/TM 2132/FLDURD/TP C172/SK OVC018
- Report
- a routine report filed through FNT
- Where
- over KFNT
- Time
- 21:32 UTC
- Height
- during the descent
- Aircraft
- C172
- Sky
- overcast from 1,800 ft
15 more routine reports are on the map.
Winds aloft along the route, and the time en route the forecast for use 20:00–03:00 UTC · at 120 knots true airspeed
The westbound cruising heights for this course (VFR: even thousands plus 500 ft; above 18,000 ft the forecast levels), with the wind averaged along the line from the 9 forecast points nearest it (MKG, GRB, LSE, MCW, FSD, PIR, RAP, LND, PIH). A plus sign is a headwind, a minus sign a tailwind.
| Height | Average wind | Head- or tailwind | Temperature | Ground speed | Time en route | Arrival |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 4,500 ft | 220° at 10 kt | +6 kt | 14 °C | 114 kt | 11 h 49 min | 6:00 am MDT (12:00 UTC) |
| 6,500 ft | 240° at 11 kt | +9 kt | 15 °C | 111 kt | 12 h 08 min | 6:19 am MDT (12:19 UTC) |
| 8,500 ft | 230° at 14 kt | +11 kt | 11 °C | 109 kt | 12 h 21 min | 6:32 am MDT (12:32 UTC) |
| 10,500 ft | 230° at 16 kt | +12 kt | 7 °C | 108 kt | 12 h 28 min | 6:39 am MDT (12:39 UTC) |
| 12,500 ft | 230° at 19 kt | +14 kt | 3 °C | 106 kt | 12 h 42 min | 6:53 am MDT (12:53 UTC) |
| 14,500 ft | 230° at 22 kt | +18 kt | -1 °C | 102 kt | 13 h 12 min | 7:23 am MDT (13:23 UTC) |
| 16,500 ft | 230° at 26 kt | +22 kt | -6 °C | 98 kt | 13 h 45 min | 7:56 am MDT (13:56 UTC) |
| 18,000 ft FL180 | 230° at 29 kt | +25 kt | -9 °C | 95 kt | 14 h 11 min | 8:22 am MDT (14:22 UTC) |
| 24,000 ft FL240 | 240° at 28 kt | +27 kt | -21 °C | 93 kt | 14 h 29 min | 8:40 am MDT (14:40 UTC) |
| 30,000 ft FL300 | 250° at 32 kt | +33 kt | -35 °C | 87 kt | 15 h 29 min | 9:40 am MDT (15:40 UTC) |
| 34,000 ft FL340 | 260° at 43 kt | +45 kt | -42 °C | 75 kt | 17 h 58 min | 12:09 pm MDT (18:09 UTC) |
| 39,000 ft FL390 | 260° at 57 kt | +58 kt | -49 °C | 62 kt | 21 h 44 min | 3:55 pm MDT (21:55 UTC) |
Based on data from the 11th at 18:00 UTC; valid on the 12th at 00:00 UTC for use 20:00 to 03:00 UTC; temperatures above 24,000 ft are below zero. Heights are above sea level; a height is left out when the forecast has no wind for it over most of the line (the ground is higher). Ground speed is the airspeed less the headwind; the time en route is for the straight line and ignores climb, descent and routing around weather.
The forecast points as issued
| Point | From | 3,000 | 6,000 | 9,000 | 12,000 | 18,000 | 24,000 | 30,000 | 34,000 | 39,000 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| MKG | used from 0 nm out; 102 nm from the line | 250/5 | 320/10 15° | 310/19 9° | 320/21 3° | 310/23 -10° | 330/37 -22° | 330/51 -38° | 320/44 -47° | 300/60 -49° |
| GRB | used from 200 nm out; 68 nm from the line | 240/24 | 260/18 16° | 270/20 11° | 290/14 4° | 280/24 -9° | 300/34 -21° | 310/51 -38° | 310/54 -48° | 300/71 -51° |
| LSE | used from 249 nm out; 76 nm from the line | 220/33 | 250/29 17° | 250/15 9° | 260/12 6° | 280/21 -9° | 280/33 -20° | 300/43 -36° | 310/56 -45° | 300/79 -53° |
| MCW | used from 399 nm out; 43 nm from the line | 200/35 | 240/33 18° | 250/20 10° | 260/10 6° | 270/18 -8° | 260/28 -19° | 280/30 -34° | 290/49 -43° | 280/70 -54° |
| FSD | used from 499 nm out; 68 nm from the line | 200/16 | 220/20 17° | 240/26 13° | 230/19 6° | 240/25 -9° | 240/28 -20° | 250/39 -33° | 250/44 -43° | 260/63 -52° |
| PIR | used from 649 nm out; 68 nm from the line | L/V 17° | 230/13 12° | 220/22 6° | 250/31 -9° | 250/34 -21° | 240/50 -35° | 230/61 -43° | 240/62 -51° | |
| RAP | used from 798 nm out; 37 nm from the line | 120/15 12° | 180/22 11° | 220/26 5° | 230/35 -9° | 240/40 -22° | 240/50 -37° | 240/51 -41° | 240/47 -47° | |
| LND | used from 998 nm out; 111 nm from the line | 180/33 10° | 190/50 3° | 210/59 -9° | 200/50 -21° | 190/41 -34° | 230/55 -39° | 240/65 -47° | ||
| PIH | used from 1197 nm out; 72 nm from the line | 270/10 | 270/13 1° | 210/16 -2° | 200/56 -11° | 200/51 -23° | 200/68 -33° | 220/77 -37° | 230/73 -44° |
The weather now: both ends and the airports along the way public airports with a weather report within 25 nm of the line, one for each stretch
| Airport | Where | Conditions | Wind | Visibility | Ceiling | Elevation | Reported |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| PTK Pontiac, MI | departure | IFR Sky: a broken layer at 500 feet, overcast at 1,000 feet Weather: mist | calm | 1.5 mi | 500 ft | 980 ft | 8:00 pm EDT (00:00 UTC) |
| LAN Lansing, MI | 50 nm out, 5 nm southwest of the line, tower | marginal VFR Sky: overcast at 1,400 feet | from the west-southwest (240°) at 3 knots | 10+ mi | 1,400 ft | 860 ft | 23:53 UTC |
| MWC Milwaukee, WI | 200 nm out, 14 nm southwest of the line, tower | VFR | from the south-southeast (160°) at 4 knots | 10+ mi | none | 744 ft | 23:55 UTC |
| RST Rochester, MN | 399 nm out, 8 nm northwest of the line, tower | VFR | from the south (180°) at 10 knots | 8 mi | none | 1,317 ft | 23:54 UTC |
| JYG St James, MN | 489 nm out, 4 nm northwest of the line | VFR | from the south (190°) at 9 knots | 10+ mi | none | 1,067 ft | 23:55 UTC |
| PQN Pipestone, MN | 569 nm out, 4 nm south of the line | VFR Sky: a few clouds at 19,000 feet | calm | 8 mi | none | 1,736 ft | 23:55 UTC |
| PHP Philip, SD | 798 nm out, 8 nm south of the line | marginal VFR Sky: overcast at 1,100 feet | from the east-northeast (070°) at 8 knots | 10+ mi | 1,100 ft | 2,209 ft | 23:55 UTC |
| RAP Rapid City, SD | 858 nm out, 8 nm south of the line, tower | marginal VFR Sky: a broken layer at 1,400 feet, overcast at 2,000 feet | from the northeast (050°) at 8 knots | 10+ mi | 1,400 ft | 3,203 ft | 00:03 UTC |
| WRL Worland, WY | 1068 nm out, 4 nm southwest of the line | IFR Sky: a broken layer at 800 feet, overcast at 1,100 feet | from the north (350°) at 4 knots | 10+ mi | 800 ft | 4,251 ft | 23:53 UTC |
| JAC Jackson, WY | 1197 nm out, 14 nm southeast of the line, tower | VFR Sky: a few clouds at 900 feet, a broken layer at 4,800 feet, overcast at 5,500 feet Weather: light rain | from the northeast (040°) at 4 knots | 7 mi | 4,800 ft | 6,451 ft | 23:56 UTC |
| IDA Idaho Falls, ID | 1247 nm out, 13 nm south of the line, tower | marginal VFR Sky: a few clouds at 800 feet, overcast at 2,400 feet Weather: rain, mist | from the north-northwest (340°) at 9 knots | 4 mi | 2,400 ft | 4,743 ft | 00:04 UTC |
| SUN Hailey, ID | destination | marginal VFR Sky: scattered clouds at 300 feet, a broken layer at 1,300 feet, overcast at 2,200 feet Weather: light rain | from the east-southeast (120°) at 5 knots | 7 mi | 1,300 ft | 5,319 ft | 5:47 pm MDT (23:47 UTC) |
The highest airport on this list sits at 6,451 ft; the ground between airports is higher still. Check the sectional chart for the terrain and the minimum safe heights along the line.
At SUN when you get there the forecast at the estimated arrival, 6:00 am MDT (12:00 UTC)
Wind light and variable, visibility more than 6 miles, light rain showers, scattered clouds at 1,500 feet, a broken layer at 2,500 feet marginal VFR
The whole forecast for SUN
- From Sun 6:00 pm MDT (00:00 UTC): wind from the south-southeast at 6 knots, visibility 6 miles, light rain showers, mist, overcast at 1,500 feet
- From Sun 8:00 pm MDT (02:00 UTC): wind from the west-northwest at 6 knots, visibility more than 6 miles, showers nearby, scattered clouds at 1,000 feet, a broken layer at 2,500 feet
- From Mon 4:00 am MDT (10:00 UTC): wind light and variable, visibility more than 6 miles, light rain showers, scattered clouds at 1,500 feet, a broken layer at 2,500 feet
- From Mon 2:00 pm MDT (20:00 UTC): wind from the southeast at 6 knots, visibility more than 6 miles, showers nearby, scattered clouds at 2,500 feet, a broken layer at 4,000 feet
The forecast for PTK, the departure
- From Sun 8:00 pm EDT (00:00 UTC): wind light and variable, visibility more than 6 miles, overcast at 800 feet
- From Sun 10:00 pm EDT (02:00 UTC): wind light and variable, visibility more than 6 miles, overcast at 1,400 feet
- From Mon 3:00 am EDT (07:00 UTC): wind from the southwest at 3 knots, visibility 2 miles, mist, scattered clouds at 25,000 feet
- At times between Mon 5:00 am EDT (09:00 UTC) and 9:00 am EDT (13:00 UTC): visibility ½ mile, fog, sky obscured at 300 feet
- From Mon 10:00 am EDT (14:00 UTC): wind from the southwest at 10 knots, gusting to 22, visibility more than 6 miles, a broken layer at 25,000 feet
Temporary flight restrictions on the line or within 25 nm of it
No temporary flight restriction on or near this route right now.
Daylight
Sunset at PTK 6:56 pm EDT (22:56 UTC), at SUN 6:59 pm MDT (00:59 UTC) (civil twilight ends 7:27 pm MDT (01:27 UTC)). At 120 knots the arrival at SUN is before sunrise there (7:47 am MDT (13:47 UTC)).
Each restriction opens the FAA's own page with the exact area, heights and times. Ordinary notices to air missions (closed runways, lights out) are not shown: the FAA's notice search is not open to sites like this one at this time.
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Sources: the Aviation Weather Center's data service (SIGMETs, AIRMETs, graphical AIRMETs, pilot reports, winds and temperatures aloft, observations and terminal forecasts), the National Weather Service radar, the Weather Prediction Center's charts, the FAA's temporary flight restriction list and shapes, and the FAA's airport file for the positions, elevations and magnetic variation. Fetched when the page is viewed and kept a few minutes. Each leg is the straight line between its two airports; airways, terrain and airspace are not considered. The airports in detail: Oakland County International, Friedman Memorial.
