Willow Run Airport to Frederick Douglass/Greater Rochester International YIP → ROC
264 nautical miles (304 statute miles) east on a straight line, true course 076°, about 082° magnetic at the departure end (variation 6W). At 120 knots that is 1 h 38 min at the quickest height in today's winds (39,000 ft, a 42-knot tailwind), arriving about 10:24 pm EDT (02:24 UTC), after sunset at the destination. Right now YIP is marginal VFR, wind calm; ROC is VFR, wind from the east-southeast (110°) at 6 knots. For planning, not a briefing: the legal preflight briefing comes from Flight Service (1-800-WX-BRIEF) or the FAA's own tools. Airlines fly this pair: 3 flights in the DOT's last twelve reported months, the route's page.
The route the straight line, the warnings crossed, restrictions, pilot reports and the airports along the way · click a mark for its words
Green, blue, red and purple airport dots are the flying conditions reported there now (VFR, marginal VFR, IFR, low IFR); grey means no report. Red areas are SIGMETs, orange areas AIRMETs, hatched red areas temporary flight restrictions. Map tiles: OpenFreeMap, data © OpenStreetMap contributors.
Warnings the route crosses SIGMETs and AIRMETs whose area the line passes through or comes within 25 nm of
- AIRMET SIERRA 3E: low cloud or poor visibility (IFR conditions) (due to ceilings below 1,000 ft, visibility below 3 miles, precipitation, mist). Over the first 39 nm of the route.
- AIRMET TANGO 2W: moderate turbulence below 18,000 ft up to 18,000 ft. Over the last 49 nm of the route.
- AIRMET SIERRA 3E: low cloud or poor visibility (IFR conditions) (due to ceilings below 1,000 ft, visibility below 3 miles, precipitation, mist). Near the route, 225 nm along the route.
- AIRMET ZULU 1C: moderate icing up to 24,000 ft. Over the last 29 nm of the route.
- AIRMET TANGO 3W: moderate turbulence above 18,000 ft from 21,000 ft to 33,000 ft. Over the last 29 nm of the route.
A SIGMET warns of weather hazardous to all aircraft; an AIRMET of weather that matters to small aircraft and to flying without instruments. "From 60 to 180 nm out" is measured along the route from YIP.
Pilot reports along the route within 50 nm of the line, last three hours, the serious ones first
- E170 at 25,000 ft, 7 nm south, 6:37 pm EDT (22:37 UTC): moderate turbulence above 25,000 ft, remarks: zob. 225 nm along the route, 7 nm south of the line.
as filed, and in English
BUF UA /OV BUF120010/TM 2237/FL250/TP E170/TB MOD 250/RM ZOB
- Report
- a routine report filed through BUF
- Where
- 10 nm southeast (120°) of BUF
- Time
- 22:37 UTC
- Height
- at 25,000 ft
- Aircraft
- E170
- Turbulence
- moderate at 25,000 ft
- Remarks
- zob
- DH8D at 19,000 ft, 0 nm southwest, 7:35 pm EDT (23:35 UTC): moderate chop turbulence, remarks: zob. At the destination end, 0 nm southwest of the line.
as filed, and in English
ROC UA /OV ROC/TM 2335/FL190/TP DH8D/TB CONS MOD CHOP/RM ZOB
- Report
- a routine report filed through ROC
- Where
- over ROC
- Time
- 23:35 UTC
- Height
- at 19,000 ft
- Aircraft
- DH8D
- Turbulence
- continuous moderate chop
- Remarks
- zob
- A320 climbing, 41 nm south, 8:14 pm EDT (00:14 UTC): overcast. At the departure end, 41 nm south of the line.
as filed, and in English
TOL UA /OV TOL/TM 0014/FLDURC/TP A320/SK B025 OVC T040
- Report
- a routine report filed through TOL
- Where
- over TOL
- Time
- 00:14 UTC
- Height
- during the climb
- Aircraft
- A320
- Sky
- B025 overcast T040
- E55P descending, 0 nm northwest, 7:00 pm EDT (23:00 UTC): a routine report with nothing remarked on. At the departure end, 0 nm northwest of the line.
as filed, and in English
YIP UA /OV KYIP/TM 2300/FLDURD/TP E55P/SK B015
- Report
- a routine report filed through YIP
- Where
- over KYIP
- Time
- 23:00 UTC
- Height
- during the descent
- Aircraft
- E55P
- Sky
- B015
- A320 descending, 41 nm south, 7:00 pm EDT (23:00 UTC): overcast from 1,600 ft to 3,500 ft, wind 350° at 9 knots. At the departure end, 41 nm south of the line.
as filed, and in English
TOL UA /OV TOL/TM 2300/FLDURD/TP A320/SK OVC016 TOP035/WV 35009KTS AT 023
- Report
- a routine report filed through TOL
- Where
- over TOL
- Time
- 23:00 UTC
- Height
- during the descent
- Aircraft
- A320
- Sky
- overcast from 1,600 ft, tops 3,500 ft
- Wind
- wind from 350° at 9 knots at at 2,300 ft
- CRJ2 descending, 45 nm north, 6:30 pm EDT (22:30 UTC): overcast from 1,900 ft to 2,900 ft. At the departure end, 45 nm north of the line.
as filed, and in English
FNT UA /OV FNT/TM 2230/FLDURD/TP CRJ2/SK OVC019 - TOP029
- Report
- a routine report filed through FNT
- Where
- over FNT
- Time
- 22:30 UTC
- Height
- during the descent
- Aircraft
- CRJ2
- Sky
- overcast from 1,900 ft, tops 2,900 ft
- BE36 at 3,000 ft, 10 nm north, 6:20 pm EDT (22:20 UTC): no turbulence, imc. At the departure end, 10 nm north of the line.
as filed, and in English
DTW UA /OV SVM/TM 2220/FL030/TP BE36/SK IMC/TB SMOOTH
- Report
- a routine report filed through DTW
- Where
- over SVM
- Time
- 22:20 UTC
- Height
- at 3,000 ft
- Aircraft
- BE36
- Sky
- instrument conditions
- Turbulence
- smooth
- A21N descending, 4 nm south, 8:22 pm EDT (00:22 UTC): overcast above 1,500 ft. At the departure end, 4 nm south of the line.
as filed, and in English
DTW UA /OV DTW/TM 0022/FLDURD/TP A21N/SK OVC015
- Report
- a routine report filed through DTW
- Where
- over DTW
- Time
- 00:22 UTC
- Height
- during the descent
- Aircraft
- A21N
- Sky
- overcast from 1,500 ft
- CRJ9 descending, 4 nm south, 8:08 pm EDT (00:08 UTC): overcast above 1,100 ft, remarks: final runway 4L. At the departure end, 4 nm south of the line.
as filed, and in English
DTW UA /OV DTW/TM 0008/FLDURD/TP CRJ9/SK OVC 011/RM FINAL RY 4L
- Report
- a routine report filed through DTW
- Where
- over DTW
- Time
- 00:08 UTC
- Height
- during the descent
- Aircraft
- CRJ9
- Sky
- overcast from 1,100 ft
- Remarks
- final runway 4L
- GLF5 at 9,000 ft, 24 nm north, 7:13 pm EDT (23:13 UTC): overcast from 1,500 ft to 4,000 ft. At the departure end, 24 nm north of the line.
as filed, and in English
PTK UA /OV PTK 7E/TM 2313/FL090/TP GLF5/SK OVC015-TOP040
- Report
- a routine report filed through PTK
- Where
- ptk 7E
- Time
- 23:13 UTC
- Height
- at 9,000 ft
- Aircraft
- GLF5
- Sky
- overcast from 1,500 ft, tops 4,000 ft
- PA32 at 1,500 ft, 24 nm north, 7:03 pm EDT (23:03 UTC): overcast above 1,500 ft. At the departure end, 24 nm north of the line.
as filed, and in English
PTK UA /OV PTK 1W/TM 2303/FL015/TP PA32/SK OVC015
- Report
- a routine report filed through PTK
- Where
- ptk 1W
- Time
- 23:03 UTC
- Height
- at 1,500 ft
- Aircraft
- PA32
- Sky
- overcast from 1,500 ft
- E75S descending, 4 nm south, 7:01 pm EDT (23:01 UTC): a routine report with nothing remarked on. At the departure end, 4 nm south of the line.
as filed, and in English
DTW UA /OV RWY 3R/TM 2301/FLDURD/TP E75S/SK TOPS 020 BASES 010
- Report
- a routine report filed through DTW
- Where
- runway 3R
- Time
- 23:01 UTC
- Height
- during the descent
- Aircraft
- E75S
- Sky
- tops 2,000 ft bases 1,000 ft
- B712 at 300 ft, 4 nm south, 6:21 pm EDT (22:21 UTC): overcast, remarks: tops 4,000 ft bases 300 ft. At the departure end, 4 nm south of the line.
as filed, and in English
DTW UA /OV DTW/TM 2221/FL003/TP B712/SK OVC/RM TOPS 040 BASES 003
- Report
- a routine report filed through DTW
- Where
- over DTW
- Time
- 22:21 UTC
- Height
- at 300 ft
- Aircraft
- B712
- Sky
- overcast
- Remarks
- tops 4,000 ft bases 300 ft
- H25B at 1,500 ft, 24 nm north, 6:20 pm EDT (22:20 UTC): overcast above 1,700 ft. At the departure end, 24 nm north of the line.
as filed, and in English
PTK UA /OV PTK270001/TM 2220/FL015/TP H25B/SK OVC017-TOPUNKN
- Report
- a routine report filed through PTK
- Where
- 1 nm west (270°) of PTK
- Time
- 22:20 UTC
- Height
- at 1,500 ft
- Aircraft
- H25B
- Sky
- overcast from 1,700 ft, tops unknown
13 more routine reports are on the map.
Winds aloft along the route, and the time en route the forecast for use 20:00–03:00 UTC · at 120 knots true airspeed
The eastbound cruising heights for this course (VFR: odd thousands plus 500 ft; above 18,000 ft the forecast levels), with the wind averaged along the line from the 2 forecast points nearest it (CLE, BUF). A plus sign is a headwind, a minus sign a tailwind.
| Height | Average wind | Head- or tailwind | Temperature | Ground speed | Time en route | Arrival |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 3,500 ft | 190° at 4 kt | −1 kt | 121 kt | 2 h 11 min | 10:57 pm EDT (02:57 UTC) | |
| 5,500 ft | 310° at 5 kt | −3 kt | 123 kt | 2 h 09 min | 10:55 pm EDT (02:55 UTC) | |
| 7,500 ft | 330° at 7 kt | −3 kt | 10 °C | 123 kt | 2 h 09 min | 10:55 pm EDT (02:55 UTC) |
| 9,500 ft | 330° at 7 kt | −3 kt | 6 °C | 123 kt | 2 h 09 min | 10:55 pm EDT (02:55 UTC) |
| 11,500 ft | 290° at 6 kt | −5 kt | 3 °C | 125 kt | 2 h 07 min | 10:53 pm EDT (02:53 UTC) |
| 13,500 ft | 280° at 8 kt | −7 kt | -1 °C | 127 kt | 2 h 05 min | 10:51 pm EDT (02:51 UTC) |
| 15,500 ft | 270° at 9 kt | −9 kt | -5 °C | 129 kt | 2 h 03 min | 10:49 pm EDT (02:49 UTC) |
| 17,500 ft | 270° at 11 kt | −10 kt | -9 °C | 130 kt | 2 h 02 min | 10:48 pm EDT (02:48 UTC) |
| 18,000 ft FL180 | 270° at 11 kt | −11 kt | -10 °C | 131 kt | 2 h 01 min | 10:47 pm EDT (02:47 UTC) |
| 24,000 ft FL240 | 250° at 13 kt | −12 kt | -23 °C | 132 kt | 2 h | 10:46 pm EDT (02:46 UTC) |
| 30,000 ft FL300 | 260° at 24 kt | −23 kt | -35 °C | 143 kt | 1 h 51 min | 10:37 pm EDT (02:37 UTC) |
| 34,000 ft FL340 | 240° at 39 kt | −37 kt | -40 °C | 157 kt | 1 h 41 min | 10:27 pm EDT (02:27 UTC) |
| 39,000 ft FL390 | 240° at 44 kt | −42 kt | -49 °C | 162 kt | 1 h 38 min | 10:24 pm EDT (02:24 UTC) |
Based on data from the 11th at 18:00 UTC; valid on the 12th at 00:00 UTC for use 20:00 to 03:00 UTC; temperatures above 24,000 ft are below zero. Heights are above sea level; a height is left out when the forecast has no wind for it over most of the line (the ground is higher). Ground speed is the airspeed less the headwind; the time en route is for the straight line and ignores climb, descent and routing around weather.
The forecast points as issued
| Point | From | 3,000 | 6,000 | 9,000 | 12,000 | 18,000 | 24,000 | 30,000 | 34,000 | 39,000 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| CLE | used from 0 nm out; 75 nm from the line | 340/5 | 320/13 14° | 300/12 8° | 310/10 2° | 310/14 -10° | 340/14 -23° | 320/27 -35° | 260/28 -40° | 250/36 -48° |
| BUF | used from 147 nm out; 45 nm from the line | 170/19 | L/V 10° | 040/9 6° | 220/8 2° | 230/15 -11° | 220/33 -22° | 220/47 -35° | 230/55 -41° | 230/56 -50° |
The weather now: both ends and the airports along the way public airports with a weather report within 25 nm of the line, one for each stretch
| Airport | Where | Conditions | Wind | Visibility | Ceiling | Elevation | Reported |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| YIP Detroit, MI | departure | marginal VFR Sky: overcast at 2,200 feet | calm | 10+ mi | 2,200 ft | 715 ft | 7:53 pm EDT (23:53 UTC) |
| DET Detroit, MI | 29 nm out, 6 nm northwest of the line, tower | low IFR Sky: a broken layer at 400 feet, overcast at 900 feet Weather: mist | calm | 6 mi | 400 ft | 624 ft | 00:30 UTC |
| CYQS St Thomas, | 108 nm out, 8 nm north of the line | no report just now | 776 ft | ||||
| BUF Buffalo, NY | 215 nm out, 3 nm southeast of the line, tower | VFR Sky: overcast at 4,900 feet | from the east-northeast (070°) at 3 knots | 10+ mi | 4,900 ft | 726 ft | 23:54 UTC |
| GVQ Batavia, NY | 244 nm out, 3 nm southwest of the line | VFR Sky: scattered clouds at 4,000 feet | from the west-northwest (290°) at 22 knots, gusting to 27 | 10+ mi | none | 913 ft | 14:56 UTC |
| ROC Rochester, NY | destination | VFR Sky: scattered clouds at 400 feet, overcast at 5,500 feet | from the east-southeast (110°) at 6 knots | 8 mi | 5,500 ft | 558 ft | 8:37 pm EDT (00:37 UTC) |
The highest airport on this list sits at 913 ft; the ground between airports is higher still. Check the sectional chart for the terrain and the minimum safe heights along the line.
At ROC when you get there the forecast at the estimated arrival, 10:24 pm EDT (02:24 UTC)
Wind from the southeast at 9 knots, visibility more than 6 miles, overcast at 1,500 feet marginal VFR
30% chance between Sun 9:00 pm EDT (01:00 UTC) and 12:00 am EDT (04:00 UTC): visibility 4 miles, light rain, overcast at 1,000 feet marginal VFR
The whole forecast for ROC
- From Sun 8:00 pm EDT (00:00 UTC): wind from the southeast at 10 knots, visibility more than 6 miles, light rain, overcast at 1,500 feet
- From Sun 9:00 pm EDT (01:00 UTC): wind from the southeast at 9 knots, visibility more than 6 miles, overcast at 1,500 feet
- 30% chance between Sun 9:00 pm EDT (01:00 UTC) and 12:00 am EDT (04:00 UTC): visibility 4 miles, light rain, overcast at 1,000 feet
- From Mon 1:00 am EDT (05:00 UTC): wind calm, visibility 6 miles, mist, a broken layer at 700 feet
- From Mon 3:00 am EDT (07:00 UTC): wind calm, visibility 4 miles, mist, overcast at 300 feet
- From Mon 10:00 am EDT (14:00 UTC): wind from the west at 4 knots, visibility more than 6 miles, overcast at 1,500 feet
- From Mon 2:00 pm EDT (18:00 UTC): wind from the west at 6 knots, visibility more than 6 miles, overcast at 2,000 feet
The forecast for YIP, the departure
- From Sun 8:00 pm EDT (00:00 UTC): wind from the northeast at 4 knots, visibility more than 6 miles, a broken layer at 1,000 feet, overcast at 1,500 feet
- From Sun 11:00 pm EDT (03:00 UTC): wind light and variable, visibility more than 6 miles, overcast at 1,400 feet
- From Mon 3:00 am EDT (07:00 UTC): wind from the south-southwest at 4 knots, visibility more than 6 miles, a broken layer at 25,000 feet
- At times between Mon 5:00 am EDT (09:00 UTC) and 9:00 am EDT (13:00 UTC): visibility 2 miles, mist, a broken layer at 400 feet
- From Mon 10:00 am EDT (14:00 UTC): wind from the southwest at 11 knots, gusting to 22, visibility more than 6 miles, a broken layer at 25,000 feet
Temporary flight restrictions on the line or within 25 nm of it
No temporary flight restriction on or near this route right now.
Daylight
Sunset at YIP 6:57 pm EDT (22:57 UTC), at ROC 6:33 pm EDT (22:33 UTC) (civil twilight ends 7:01 pm EDT (23:01 UTC)). At 120 knots the arrival at ROC is after sunset there (6:34 pm EDT (22:34 UTC)).
Each restriction opens the FAA's own page with the exact area, heights and times. Ordinary notices to air missions (closed runways, lights out) are not shown: the FAA's notice search is not open to sites like this one at this time.
Radar and forecast charts for the regions crossed government pictures, the latest each time the page loads
Sources: the Aviation Weather Center's data service (SIGMETs, AIRMETs, graphical AIRMETs, pilot reports, winds and temperatures aloft, observations and terminal forecasts), the National Weather Service radar, the Weather Prediction Center's charts, the FAA's temporary flight restriction list and shapes, and the FAA's airport file for the positions, elevations and magnetic variation. Fetched when the page is viewed and kept a few minutes. Each leg is the straight line between its two airports; airways, terrain and airspace are not considered. The airports in detail: Willow Run Airport, Frederick Douglass/Greater Rochester International.