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Piper PA-28-161 accident near Nantucket, Massachusetts, July 19, 1985

On July 19, 1985, a Piper PA-28-161, registered N8247A, was destroyed in an accident near Nantucket, Massachusetts (Nantucket Mem. airport). It was a personal flight under general aviation rules (Part 91). 2 people were seriously injured. The weather was instrument conditions (cloud, fog or low visibility).

The NTSB's probable cause their words, unchanged

The NTSB has not yet published a probable cause for this accident. Investigations usually take one to two years; this page updates when the final report is released.

Source: NTSB aviation accident database, copy made October 5, 2026. Docket and reports at the NTSB.

What the record shows

Date
July 19, 1985
Place
Nantucket, Massachusetts · Nantucket Mem.
Type
Accident
Injuries
2 people were seriously injured.
Weather
instrument conditions (cloud, fog or low visibility)
Aircraft
Piper PA-28-161 · all PA-28-161s on the register
Registration
N8247A · registry record · serial 28-8116001
Damage
Destroyed
Flight
Personal flight · general aviation rules (Part 91)

The NTSB's narrative final · quoted from the NTSB record

THE ACFT WAS OBSERVED IN A MEDIUM LEFT BANK TURNING THROUGH A SOUTH SOUTHWEST HEADING AS IT APPEARED FROM THE CLOUDS. THE ACFT CONTINUED TO DESCEND IN THAT ATTITUDE UNTIL IT COLLIDED WITH THE TREES ABOUT 3.5 MILES SOUTHEAST OF THE ARPT. THE PLT AND PASSENGER WERE HELPED OUT OF THE WRECKAGE BY A LOCAL PLT AND EMERGENCY PERSONNEL.

The complete narrative as the NTSB published it. The NTSB's docket holds the report as a PDF and any photographs, statements and other documents from the investigation.

The factual record from the NTSB's investigation tables, in plain English

Pilot

  • Certificate: flight instructor, commercial pilot
  • Ratings: single-engine land; instructor: airplane single-engine; instrument: airplane
  • Flight time: 426 hours in all; 251 in this make and model; 28 in the last 90 days; 9 in the last 30 days; 292 as pilot in command
  • Medical certificate: Class 2 (valid medical--no waivers/lim.)
  • Seat: left

The aircraft

  • Airframe total time: 1,132 hours
  • Last inspection: annual inspection, May 15, 1985; 108 hours since
  • Maximum gross weight: 2,325 lb
  • Seats: 4
  • Landing gear: fixed
  • Engine: Lycoming O-320-D36 (piston); 0 hours total

The flight

  • Departed from: OWD Norwood MA
  • Flight plan: IFR
  • Runway 24, 6,303 ft by 150 ft

Weather at the time

  • Light: daylight
  • Wind: from 050° at 10 knots
  • Temperature: 59°F (15°C), dew point 59°F (15°C)
  • Altimeter: 30.00 inHg

Injuries

FatalSeriousMinorNone
Crew1
Passengers1

Documents from the investigation the NTSB's docket: the evidence folder behind the report

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