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Hughes 269C accident near Altoona, Pennsylvania, August 10, 1985

On August 10, 1985 at about 7:07 pm local time, a Hughes 269C (helicopter), registered N8615E, was substantially damaged in an accident near Altoona, Pennsylvania. It was an instructional flight under general aviation rules (Part 91). 1 person was killed and 1 person had minor injuries. The weather was visual conditions (good weather).

The NTSB's probable cause their words, unchanged

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Source: NTSB aviation accident database, copy made October 5, 2026. Docket and reports at the NTSB.

What the record shows

Date
August 10, 1985 · about 7:07 pm local time
Place
Altoona, Pennsylvania · map
Type
Accident
Injuries
1 person was killed and 1 person had minor injuries.
Weather
visual conditions (good weather)
Aircraft
Hughes 269C · all 269Cs on the register
Registration
N8615E · no longer on the register
Damage
Substantial damage
Flight
Instructional flight · general aviation rules (Part 91)

The NTSB's narrative final · quoted from the NTSB record

THE HELICOPTER WITH CFI/OWNER AND STUDENT WHO WAS FLYING FROM THE LEFT SIDE OVER HIGH TERRAIN AT ABOUT 70 MPH REPORTED A GRADUAL LOSS OF POWER. THE CFI TOOK CONTROL AND ATTEMPTED TO EFFECT AN AIRSTART. THIS WAS WITHOUT SUCCESS. THE PLT THEN ATTEMPTED TO ARREST THE DESCENT BUT ACFT IMPACTED THE GROUND WITH SUCH FORCE IT BROKE UP ON IMPACT. BOTH LEFT AND RIGHT SKIDS COLLAPSED, TAIL BOOM AND ROTOR WERE SEPARATED AT APRX THE 180 STATION, AND LOCATED APRX 25 FT FROM THE MAIN WRECKAGE. DUAL CONTROLS WERE INSTALLED, EXCEPT ON THE RIGHT SIDE THERE WERE NO TORQUE PEDALS ATTACHED TO THE TORQUE CONTROL STUBS. INSPECTION OF THE ACFT AND ENG DISCLOSED ONE MAGNETO WAS OFF ON IT'S TIMING AND THE MAGNETO HAD LOST APRX 43% OF IT'S MAGNETISM. BOTH MAGNETOS CONTAINED OIL AND CARBON BRUSH WEAR.

The complete narrative as the NTSB published it. The NTSB's docket holds the report as a PDF and any photographs, statements and other documents from the investigation.

The factual record from the NTSB's investigation tables, in plain English

Pilot

  • Certificate: flight instructor, commercial pilot
  • Ratings: single-engine land; instructor: helicopter; rotorcraft: helicopter
  • Medical certificate: Class 2 (valid medical--w/ waivers/lim.)
  • Seat: rgt

The aircraft

  • Last inspection: inspection type not recorded
  • Maximum gross weight: 1,670 lb
  • Seats: 3
  • Landing gear: fixed
  • Engine: Lycoming HIO-360-D1A (piston); 0 hours total

The flight

  • Departed from: Patton PA
  • Flight plan: none
  • Runway 0

Weather at the time

  • Light: daylight
  • Wind: from 240° at 5 knots
  • Sky: scat at 4,000 ft
  • Temperature: 0°F (-18°C), dew point 0°F (-18°C)
  • Altimeter: 30.00 inHg
  • Observation at 7:30 pm from AOO

Injuries

FatalSeriousMinorNone
Crew11

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