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Stinson 108-3 accident near Erie, Pennsylvania, May 3, 1985

On May 3, 1985 at about 11:30 pm local time, a Stinson 108-3, registered N6114M, was substantially damaged in an accident near Erie, Pennsylvania (Moorhead airport). It was an instructional flight under general aviation rules (Part 91). 2 people had minor injuries. The weather was visual conditions (good weather).

The NTSB's probable cause their words, unchanged

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Source: NTSB aviation accident database, copy made October 5, 2026. Docket and reports at the NTSB.

What the record shows

Date
May 3, 1985 · about 11:30 pm local time
Place
Erie, Pennsylvania · Moorhead · map
Type
Accident
Injuries
2 people had minor injuries.
Weather
visual conditions (good weather)
Aircraft
Stinson 108-3 · all 108-3s on the register
Registration
N6114M · no longer on the register · serial 108-4114
Damage
Substantial damage
Flight
Instructional flight · general aviation rules (Part 91)

The NTSB's narrative final · quoted from the NTSB record

THE INSTRUCTOR PLT (CFI) REPORTED THAT WHILE HE WAS INSTRUCTING THE STUDENT ON TAKEOFFS & LANDING, THE ENG LOST POWER DUE TO INSUFFICIENT FUEL. REPORTEDLY, THE ENG LOST POWER SHORTLY AFTER TAKEOFF & THE AIRCREW HAD TO TURN TO AVOID HIGH TENSION WIRES DURING AN EMERGENCY LANDING. SUBSEQUENTLY, THE ACFT STALLED WHILE IT WAS ABOUT 30 FT OFF THE GROUND & THE LANDING GEAR & FUSELAGE WERE DAMAGED DURING TOUCHDOWN. THE CFI REPORTED THAT THE FUEL GAGES WERE PROVIDING A FAULTY INDICATION WHEN THE ENG LOST POWER.

The complete narrative as the NTSB published it. The NTSB's docket holds the report as a PDF and any photographs, statements and other documents from the investigation.

The factual record from the NTSB's investigation tables, in plain English

Pilot

  • Certificate: flight instructor, commercial pilot
  • Ratings: single-engine land; instructor: airplane single-engine; instrument: airplane
  • Flight time: 15,427 hours in all; 15,427 in this make and model; 30 in the last 90 days; 15,427 as pilot in command
  • Medical certificate: Class 2 (valid medical--w/ waivers/lim.)
  • Seat: rgt

The aircraft

  • Last inspection: inspection type not recorded
  • Maximum gross weight: 2,200 lb
  • Seats: 4
  • Landing gear: fixed
  • Engine: Franklin 6A4-165-B3 (piston); 0 hours total

The flight

  • Flight plan: none
  • Runway 3, 1,665 ft by 140 ft

Weather at the time

  • Light: daylight
  • Wind: from 030° at 12 knots
  • Visibility: 10 statute miles
  • Sky: clear
  • Temperature: 55°F (13°C), dew point 48°F (9°C)
  • Altimeter: 29.00 inHg
  • Observation at 7:30 pm

Injuries

FatalSeriousMinorNone
Crew2

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