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Accidents · NTSB NYC83LA216 · Preliminary: the investigation is not finished

Stinson 108-1 accident near Tully, New York, August 18, 1983

On August 18, 1983 at about 7:00 am local time, a Stinson 108-1, registered N8470K, was destroyed in an accident near Tully, New York. It was a personal flight under general aviation rules (Part 91). No one was hurt; 3 people were on board or involved. The weather was visual conditions (good weather).

The NTSB's probable cause their words, unchanged

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Source: NTSB aviation accident database, copy made October 5, 2026. Docket and reports at the NTSB.

What the record shows

Date
August 18, 1983 · about 7:00 am local time
Place
Tully, New York · map
Type
Accident
Injuries
No one was hurt; 3 people were on board or involved.
Weather
visual conditions (good weather)
Aircraft
Stinson 108-1 · all 108-1s on the register
Registration
N8470K · no longer on the register · serial 10611C
Damage
Destroyed
Flight
Personal flight · general aviation rules (Part 91)

The NTSB's narrative final · quoted from the NTSB record

AT 2,000 FT NEAR SYRACUSE THE PLT DECIDED HE HAD ENOUGH FUEL TO CONTINUE ON TO HIS HOME BASE AT CORTLAND. HE ADDED FULL POWER TO CLIMB BACK TO 3,000 FT & ENCOUNTERED TURBULENCE. WITH FULL POWER & 80 KTS INDICATED THE ACFT WAS LOSING ALTITUDE. THE ACFT COLLIDED WITH TREES ON A RIDGE LINE. THE SYRACUSE 0250 WX OBSERVATION INDICATED THUNDERSTORMS WEST OFSYRACUSE MOVING EAST. THE 0307 SPECIAL OBSERVATION INDICATED A VISIBILITY OF 2 MI IN HEAVY THUNDERSHOWERS.

The complete narrative as the NTSB published it. The NTSB's docket holds the report as a PDF and any photographs, statements and other documents from the investigation.

The factual record from the NTSB's investigation tables, in plain English

Pilot

  • Certificate: private
  • Ratings: single-engine land
  • Flight time: 400 hours in all; 85 in this make and model; 58 in the last 90 days; 253 as pilot in command; 11 on instruments
  • Medical certificate: Class 3 (valid medical--w/ waivers/lim.)
  • Seat: left

The aircraft

  • Airframe total time: 1,500 hours
  • Last inspection: annual inspection, December 1, 1982; 0 hours since
  • Maximum gross weight: 2,078 lb
  • Seats: 4
  • Landing gear: fixed
  • Engine: Franklin 06 (piston); 0 hours total
  • Fire on the ground

The flight

  • Departed from: Port Huron MI at 3:15 am
  • Destination: SYR Syracuse NY
  • Flight plan: none
  • Runway 0

Weather at the time

  • Light: night, dark
  • Wind: from 240° at 9 knots
  • Visibility: 2 statute miles
  • Sky: overcast at 2,800 ft; scat at 1,200 ft
  • Temperature: 68°F (20°C), dew point 0°F (-18°C)
  • Altimeter: 29.00 inHg

Injuries

FatalSeriousMinorNone
Crew1
Passengers2

Documents from the investigation the NTSB's docket: the evidence folder behind the report

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Other NTSB records under N8470K the same tail number, which may have belonged to a different aircraft at the time

1999-03-08DEN99LA050 · accident near Santa Rosa, NM · substantial damage · no injuries

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