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Piper PA-28-181 accident near Orlando, Florida, November 21, 1984

On November 21, 1984 at about 4:58 pm local time, a Piper PA-28-181, registered N82108, was destroyed in an accident near Orlando, Florida. It was a personal flight under general aviation rules (Part 91). 3 people were killed. The weather was visual conditions (good weather).

The NTSB's probable cause their words, unchanged

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Source: NTSB aviation accident database, copy made October 5, 2026. Docket and reports at the NTSB.

What the record shows

Date
November 21, 1984 · about 4:58 pm local time
Place
Orlando, Florida · map
Type
Accident
Injuries
3 people were killed.
Weather
visual conditions (good weather)
Aircraft
Piper PA-28-181 · all PA-28-181s on the register
Registration
N82108 · no longer on the register · serial 288090299
Damage
Destroyed
Flight
Personal flight · general aviation rules (Part 91)

The NTSB's narrative final · quoted from the NTSB record

NUMEROUS WITNESSES HEARD THE ENGINE SPUTTER AND THEN STOP. THE EVIDENCE SUGGESTS THE PILOT ATTEMPTED AN EMERGENCY LANDING AT THE PARKING LOT. WHILE MANEUVERING AT VERY LOW ALTITUDES AND AIRSPEEDS, THE LEFT WING HIT A LIGHT POLE. THE PRIVATE PILOT HAD A TOTAL OF 79 HOURS LOGGED. NO FUEL WAS FOUND IN THE LINES OR IN THE FUEL TANKS.

The complete narrative as the NTSB published it. The NTSB's docket holds the report as a PDF and any photographs, statements and other documents from the investigation.

The factual record from the NTSB's investigation tables, in plain English

Pilot

  • Certificate: private
  • Ratings: single-engine land
  • Flight time: 82 hours in all; 54 in this make and model; 38 in the last 90 days; 38 in the last 30 days; 25 as pilot in command
  • Medical certificate: Class 3 (valid medical--w/ waivers/lim.)
  • Seat: left

The aircraft

  • Airframe total time: 11,729 hours
  • Last inspection: 100-hour inspection, October 5, 1984; 66 hours since
  • Maximum gross weight: 2,550 lb
  • Seats: 4
  • Landing gear: fixed
  • Engine: Lycoming O-360-A4M (piston); 0 hours total

The flight

  • Departed from: GMU Greenville SC at 1:49 pm
  • Destination: ISM Kissimmee FL
  • Flight plan: VFR
  • Runway 0

Weather at the time

  • Light: daylight
  • Wind: from 060° at 8 knots
  • Visibility: 7 statute miles
  • Sky: broken clouds at 2,400 ft; not recorded at 2,400 ft
  • Temperature: 72°F (22°C), dew point 66°F (19°C)
  • Altimeter: 30.00 inHg
  • Observation at 4:53 pm from MCO, 14 miles away

Injuries

FatalSeriousMinorNone
Crew1
Passengers2

Documents from the investigation the NTSB's docket: the evidence folder behind the report

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