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Grumman AA-1B accident near Paso Robles, California, July 13, 1985

On July 13, 1985 at about 2:12 am local time, a Grumman AA-1B, registered N8964L, was destroyed in an accident near Paso Robles, California (Paso Robles Municipal airport). It was a personal flight under general aviation rules (Part 91). 2 people had minor injuries. The weather was visual conditions (good weather).

The NTSB's probable cause their words, unchanged

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Source: NTSB aviation accident database, copy made October 5, 2026. Docket and reports at the NTSB.

What the record shows

Date
July 13, 1985 · about 2:12 am local time
Place
Paso Robles, California · Paso Robles Municipal · map
Type
Accident
Injuries
2 people had minor injuries.
Weather
visual conditions (good weather)
Aircraft
Grumman AA-1B
Registration
N8964L · registry record · serial AA1B-0414
Damage
Destroyed
Flight
Personal flight · general aviation rules (Part 91)

The NTSB's narrative final · quoted from the NTSB record

THE PASO ROBLES (PRB) FLIGHT SERVICE STATION AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL SPECIALIST REPTD THAT THE PILOT RADIOED THAT THE AIRCRAFT RAN OUT OF FUEL ABT 5 MILES SO OF PRB. EXAMINATION OF THE WRECKAGE DISCLSED BOTH WING FUEL TANKS CONTAINED LESS THAT 1 GALLON OF FUEL IN EACH TANK. NO EVIDENCE OF ANY FUEL LEAKS WAS OBSERVED NEAR THE CARBURETOR OR FUEL TANKS. THE FUEL TANKS INTEGRITY WAS NOT COMPROMISED.

The complete narrative as the NTSB published it. The NTSB's docket holds the report as a PDF and any photographs, statements and other documents from the investigation.

The factual record from the NTSB's investigation tables, in plain English

Pilot

  • Certificate: private
  • Ratings: single-engine land
  • Flight time: 193 hours in all; 67 in this make and model; 4 in the last 90 days; 106 as pilot in command
  • Medical certificate: Unknown (valid medical--w/ waivers/lim.)
  • Seat: unk

The aircraft

  • Airframe total time: 2,672 hours
  • Last inspection: annual inspection, June 15, 1985
  • Maximum gross weight: 1,560 lb
  • Seats: 2
  • Landing gear: fixed
  • Engine: Lycoming O-235-C2C (piston); 0 hours total
  • Operator: Skylighters Flying Club

The flight

  • Departed from: MYF San Diego CA at 10:29 pm
  • Destination: PRB Paso Robles CA
  • Flight plan: VFR
  • Runway 0

Weather at the time

  • Light: daylight
  • Wind: from 290° at 8 knots
  • Visibility: 10 statute miles
  • Sky: clear
  • Temperature: 0°F (-18°C), dew point 0°F (-18°C)
  • Altimeter: 29.00 inHg
  • Observation at 1:12 am from PRB, 3 miles away

Injuries

FatalSeriousMinorNone
Crew1
Passengers1

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