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Piper PA-28RT accident near Novato, California, July 30, 1983

On July 30, 1983 at about 11:30 pm local time, a Piper PA-28RT, registered N2510U, was substantially damaged in an accident near Novato, California (Gnoss Field). It was a personal flight under general aviation rules (Part 91). No one was hurt; 1 person was on board or involved. The weather was visual conditions (good weather).

The NTSB's probable cause their words, unchanged

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Source: NTSB aviation accident database, copy made October 5, 2026. Docket and reports at the NTSB.

What the record shows

Date
July 30, 1983 · about 11:30 pm local time
Place
Novato, California · Gnoss Field · map
Type
Accident
Injuries
No one was hurt; 1 person was on board or involved.
Weather
visual conditions (good weather)
Aircraft
Piper PA-28RT · all PA-28RTs on the register
Registration
N2510U · no longer on the register · serial 28R-7931270
Damage
Substantial damage
Flight
Personal flight · general aviation rules (Part 91)

The NTSB's narrative final · quoted from the NTSB record

THE ACFT LEFT THE RWY DURING LANDING AND COLLIDED WITH A DIRT EMBANKMENT. THE PLT WAS PRACTICING TAKEOFFS AND LANDINGS. THE TOWER HAD ADVISED HIM THAT RWY 13 WAS IN USE AND THERE WAS RIGHT CROSSWIND. DURING THE 3RD LANDING AS THE PLT WAS RAISING THE FLAPS HE ALSO APPLIED THE BRAKES. CONTROL WAS LOST AND THE ACFT DEPARTED THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE RWY AND HIT AN EMBANKMENT. THE PLT HAD REPORTEDLY USED FULL FLAPS AND AN APPROACH SPEED OF 80 KTS DURING THIS LANDING. THE WIND WAS REPORTED TO BE FROM THE SOUTHWEST AT 10 KTS. THE PLT REPORTED THE WIND WAS FROM THE NORTHWEST AT 12 KTS. THE BRAKES WERE EXAMINED AFTER THE ACCIDENT AND FOUND TO BE NORMAL WITH PADS ALMOST NEW IN APPEARANCE.

The complete narrative as the NTSB published it. The NTSB's docket holds the report as a PDF and any photographs, statements and other documents from the investigation.

The factual record from the NTSB's investigation tables, in plain English

Pilot

  • Certificate: private
  • Ratings: single-engine land
  • Flight time: 9 in the last 90 days; 128 as pilot in command
  • Medical certificate: Class 3 (expired)
  • Seat: left

The aircraft

  • Airframe total time: 1,268 hours
  • Last inspection: 100-hour inspection, July 1, 1983; 12 hours since
  • Maximum gross weight: 2,900 lb
  • Seats: 4
  • Landing gear: retractable
  • Engine: Continental TSIO-360-FB1 (piston); 0 hours total
  • Operator: Golden Bear Aviation

The flight

  • Flight plan: none
  • Runway 0, 3,300 ft by 60 ft

Weather at the time

  • Light: daylight
  • Wind: from 225° at 10 knots, gusting 12
  • Visibility: 20 statute miles
  • Sky: clear
  • Temperature: 84°F (29°C), dew point 0°F (-18°C)

Injuries

FatalSeriousMinorNone
Crew1

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