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Cessna A185E accident near El Paso, Texas, November 12, 1983

On November 12, 1983 at about 6:04 pm local time, a Cessna A185E, registered N70083, was substantially damaged in an accident near El Paso, Texas (El Paso Intl. airport). It was an instructional flight under general aviation rules (Part 91). No one was hurt; 4 people were on board or involved. The weather was visual conditions (good weather).

The NTSB's probable cause their words, unchanged

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Source: NTSB aviation accident database, copy made October 5, 2026. Docket and reports at the NTSB.

What the record shows

Date
November 12, 1983 · about 6:04 pm local time
Place
El Paso, Texas · El Paso Intl. · map
Type
Accident
Injuries
No one was hurt; 4 people were on board or involved.
Weather
visual conditions (good weather)
Aircraft
Cessna A185E · all A185Es on the register
Registration
N70083 · registry record · serial 185-01950
Damage
Substantial damage
Flight
Instructional flight · general aviation rules (Part 91)

The NTSB's narrative final · quoted from the NTSB record

THE ACFT GROUNDLOOPED DURING LANDING ON AN INSTRUCTIONAL FLT. THE LANDING WAS ON RWY 22 AND THE WIND WAS FROM 270 DEGREES AT 9 KTS. AFTER TOUCHDOWN DIRECTIONAL CONTROL WAS LOST AND THE ACFT VEERED TO THE RIGHT COLLAPSING THE LEFT MAINLANDING GEAR.

The complete narrative as the NTSB published it. The NTSB's docket holds the report as a PDF and any photographs, statements and other documents from the investigation.

The factual record from the NTSB's investigation tables, in plain English

Pilot

  • Certificate: flight instructor, commercial pilot
  • Ratings: multi-engine land; single-engine land; instructor: airplane single-engine; instrument: airplane
  • Flight time: 3,877 hours in all; 195 in this make and model; 197 in the last 90 days; 3,588 as pilot in command
  • Medical certificate: Class 2 (valid medical--w/ waivers/lim.)
  • Seat: rgt

The aircraft

  • Airframe total time: 2,418 hours
  • Last inspection: annual inspection, June 10, 1983; 57 hours since
  • Maximum gross weight: 3,300 lb
  • Seats: 6
  • Landing gear: fixed
  • Engine: Continental IO-520-D (piston); 0 hours total

The flight

  • Departed from: TUS Tucson AZ at 1:30 pm
  • Flight plan: VFR
  • Runway 22, 11,012 ft by 150 ft

Weather at the time

  • Light: daylight
  • Wind: from 270° at 9 knots
  • Visibility: 40 statute miles
  • Sky: clear
  • Temperature: 70°F (21°C), dew point 36°F (2°C)
  • Altimeter: 30.00 inHg

Injuries

FatalSeriousMinorNone
Crew2
Passengers2

Documents from the investigation the NTSB's docket: the evidence folder behind the report

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Other NTSB records under N70083 the same tail number, which may have belonged to a different aircraft at the time

2009-05-18WPR09CA252 · accident near Tacoma, WA · substantial damage · no injuries

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