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Piper PA-24-250 accident near Mccall, Idaho, July 5, 1985

On July 5, 1985 at about 2:30 pm local time, a Piper PA-24-250, registered N5829P, was substantially damaged in an accident near Mccall, Idaho. It was a personal flight under general aviation rules (Part 91). No one was hurt; 4 people were on board or involved. The weather was visual conditions (good weather).

The NTSB's probable cause their words, unchanged

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Source: NTSB aviation accident database, copy made October 5, 2026. Docket and reports at the NTSB.

What the record shows

Date
July 5, 1985 · about 2:30 pm local time
Place
Mccall, Idaho · map
Type
Accident
Injuries
No one was hurt; 4 people were on board or involved.
Weather
visual conditions (good weather)
Aircraft
Piper PA-24-250 · all PA-24-250s on the register
Registration
N5829P · no longer on the register · serial 25-910
Damage
Substantial damage
Flight
Personal flight · general aviation rules (Part 91)

The NTSB's narrative final · quoted from the NTSB record

THE ACFT WAS DAMAGED DURING A FORCED LANDING IN A FLD FOLLOWING FUEL EXHAUSTION. THE PLT REPORTED HE DEPARTED YELLOW PINE, ID, WITH THE FUEL GAGES INDICATING 1/2. UPON REACHING AN ALT OF 10,000 FT, THE ENG QUIT DUE TO FUEL EXHAUSTION. THE RIGHT FUEL TANK WAS THEN SELECTED AND THE ENG WAS RESTARTED. A LANDING WAS MADE AT CASCADE, ID, TO OBTAIN FUEL, HOWEVER, FUEL WAS NOT AVAILABLE AT THE ARPT. TAKEOFF FROM CASCADE WAS MADE WITH THE FUEL GAGE INDICATING 1/4 FULL. AT AN ALT OF 6,500 FT, 3 MILES FROM MCCALL ARPT, THE ENG QUIT ONCE AGAIN DUE TO FUEL EXHAUSTION AND THE FORCED LANDING RESULTED.

The complete narrative as the NTSB published it. The NTSB's docket holds the report as a PDF and any photographs, statements and other documents from the investigation.

The factual record from the NTSB's investigation tables, in plain English

Pilot

  • Certificate: private
  • Ratings: single-engine land
  • Flight time: 806 hours in all; 65 in this make and model; 34 in the last 90 days; 682 as pilot in command
  • Medical certificate: Class 2 (valid medical--no waivers/lim.)
  • Seat: left

The aircraft

  • Last inspection: inspection type not recorded
  • Maximum gross weight: 2,900 lb
  • Seats: 4
  • Landing gear: fixed
  • Engine: Lycoming O-540-A1A5 (piston); 0 hours total

The flight

  • Departed from: 3U2 Yellow Pine ID at 1:30 pm
  • Destination: MYL Mccall ID
  • Flight plan: none
  • Runway 0

Weather at the time

  • Light: daylight
  • Visibility: 50 statute miles
  • Sky: clear
  • Temperature: 70°F (21°C), dew point 0°F (-18°C)

Injuries

FatalSeriousMinorNone
Crew1
Passengers3

Documents from the investigation the NTSB's docket: the evidence folder behind the report

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