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Grumman AA-1C accident near Farmingdale, New York, July 17, 1985

On July 17, 1985 at about 12:08 pm local time, a Grumman AA-1C, registered N333FY, was substantially damaged in an accident near Farmingdale, New York (Republic airport). It was an instructional flight under general aviation rules (Part 91). No one was hurt; 1 person was on board or involved. The weather was visual conditions (good weather).

The NTSB's probable cause their words, unchanged

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Source: NTSB aviation accident database, copy made October 5, 2026. Docket and reports at the NTSB.

What the record shows

Date
July 17, 1985 · about 12:08 pm local time
Place
Farmingdale, New York · Republic · map
Type
Accident
Injuries
No one was hurt; 1 person was on board or involved.
Weather
visual conditions (good weather)
Aircraft
Grumman AA-1C
Registration
N333FY · no longer on the register · serial 0144
Damage
Substantial damage
Flight
Instructional flight · general aviation rules (Part 91)

The NTSB's narrative final · quoted from the NTSB record

THE PLT WAS PERFORMING A SERIES OF TOUCH AND GO LANDINGS AT REPUBLIC ARPT WHEN THE ACCIDENT OCCURRED. DURING THE FINAL LANDING, A HARD TOUCH DOWN WAS MADE WHICH RESULTED IN A PORPOISED LANDING.

The complete narrative as the NTSB published it. The NTSB's docket holds the report as a PDF and any photographs, statements and other documents from the investigation.

The factual record from the NTSB's investigation tables, in plain English

Pilot

  • Certificate: student
  • Ratings: single-engine land
  • Flight time: 44 hours in all; 44 in this make and model; 5 in the last 90 days; 7 as pilot in command
  • Medical certificate: Class 3 (valid medical--no waivers/lim.)
  • Seat: unk

The aircraft

  • Airframe total time: 1,986 hours
  • Last inspection: annual inspection, November 5, 1984; 16 hours since
  • Maximum gross weight: 1,560 lb
  • Seats: 2
  • Landing gear: fixed
  • Engine: Lycoming O-235-L2C (piston); 0 hours total
  • Operator: Tripple Three Aviation

The flight

  • Departed from: FRG Farmingdale NY at 1:00 pm
  • Flight plan: none
  • Runway 1, 5,516 ft by 150 ft

Weather at the time

  • Light: daylight
  • Wind: from 030° at 12 knots
  • Visibility: 30 statute miles
  • Sky: clear
  • Temperature: 0°F (-18°C), dew point 0°F (-18°C)
  • Altimeter: 30.00 inHg

Injuries

FatalSeriousMinorNone
Crew1

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