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Smith, Ted Aerostar AEROSTAR 600 accident near Utica, New York, March 6, 1985

On March 6, 1985 at about 1:17 am local time, a Smith, Ted Aerostar AEROSTAR 600, registered N7408S, was substantially damaged in an accident near Utica, New York (Oneida CO. airport). It was a flight of an unrecorded kind under charter and air-taxi rules (Part 135). No one was hurt; 1 person was on board or involved. The weather was instrument conditions (cloud, fog or low visibility).

The NTSB's probable cause their words, unchanged

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Source: NTSB aviation accident database, copy made October 5, 2026. Docket and reports at the NTSB.

What the record shows

Date
March 6, 1985 · about 1:17 am local time
Place
Utica, New York · Oneida CO.
Type
Accident
Injuries
No one was hurt; 1 person was on board or involved.
Weather
instrument conditions (cloud, fog or low visibility)
Aircraft
Smith, Ted Aerostar AEROSTAR 600 AEROSTAR 6
Registration
N7408S · no longer on the register · serial 600013
Damage
Substantial damage
Flight
Flight of an unrecorded kind · charter and air-taxi rules (Part 135)

The NTSB's narrative final · quoted from the NTSB record

THE PLT REPORTED THAT DURING AN ILS APCH, HE BROKE OUT & SAW THE ARPT. HOWEVER, HE SAID THAT 'LAKE EFFECT' WAS MOVING IN RAPIDLY. THE WIND WAS REPORTED FROM 290 DEG AT 12 GUSTING 18 KTS. THE PLT ELECTED TO CONTINUE HIS APCH TO RWY 33 RATHER THAN CIRCLE & LAND ON RWY 27. ABOUT 3 TO 5 SEC INTO THE LANDING ROLL, THE ACFT VEER LEFT & COLLIDED WITH A SNOWBANK. THE PLT REPORTED THAT THE RWY WAS SLICK. APRX 3 MIN AFTER LANDING, THE WX WAS REPORTED IN PART AS: 500 FT OBSCURED, VISIBILITY 1/2 MI WITH LIGHT SNOW.

The complete narrative as the NTSB published it. The NTSB's docket holds the report as a PDF and any photographs, statements and other documents from the investigation.

The factual record from the NTSB's investigation tables, in plain English

Pilot

  • Certificate: airline transport pilot, flight instructor
  • Ratings: multi-engine land; single-engine land; instrument: airplane
  • Flight time: 2,518 hours in all; 109 in this make and model; 108 in the last 90 days; 108 as pilot in command
  • Medical certificate: Class 1 (valid medical--no waivers/lim.)
  • Seat: left

The aircraft

  • Airframe total time: 2,736 hours
  • Last inspection: annual inspection, March 5, 1985; 2 hours since
  • Maximum gross weight: 5,500 lb
  • Landing gear: retractable
  • Engine: Lycoming IO-540-G1B5 (piston); 0 hours total

The flight

  • Departed from: TEB Teterboro NJ
  • Flight plan: VFR
  • Runway 33, 6,000 ft by 150 ft

Weather at the time

  • Light: night, dark
  • Wind: from 290° at 12 knots, gusting 18
  • Sky: not recorded at 500 ft
  • Temperature: 30°F (-1°C), dew point 0°F (-18°C)
  • Altimeter: 30.00 inHg

Injuries

FatalSeriousMinorNone
Crew1

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