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Mcdonnell Douglas 369E accident near Phoenix, Arizona, March 19, 1987

On March 19, 1987 at about 4:20 pm local time, a Mcdonnell Douglas 369E (helicopter), registered N1601Y, was substantially damaged in an accident near Phoenix, Arizona. It was an instructional flight under general aviation rules (Part 91). No one was hurt; 2 people were on board or involved. The weather was visual conditions (good weather).

The NTSB's probable cause their words, unchanged

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Source: NTSB aviation accident database, copy made October 5, 2026. Docket and reports at the NTSB.

What the record shows

Date
March 19, 1987 · about 4:20 pm local time
Place
Phoenix, Arizona · map
Type
Accident
Injuries
No one was hurt; 2 people were on board or involved.
Weather
visual conditions (good weather)
Aircraft
Mcdonnell Douglas 369E
Registration
N1601Y · no longer on the register · serial 0216E
Damage
Substantial damage
Flight
Instructional flight · general aviation rules (Part 91)

The NTSB's narrative final · quoted from the NTSB record

DURING FACTORY FLT TRAINING, PRIOR TO DELIVERY OF THE NEW HELICOPTER TO THE OWNER, THE CFI SAID HE ASKED THE STUDENT TO PERFORM A SERIES OF EMERGENCY PROCEDURES WHICH INCLUDED QUICK STOPS FROM AN INITIAL TAKEOFF FOLLOWED BY HOVERING AUTOROTATIONS. THE CFI SAID THE STUDENT SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETED ONE SERIES OF MANEUVERS AND HE ASKED HIM TO DO ONE MORE. THE CFI SAID THAT DURING THE DECELERATION PHASE OF THE QUICK STOP, THE STUDENT MISTAKENLY 'ROLLED THE THROTTLE TO THE IDLE POSITION' AT ABOUT 25 FT AGL. THE CFI SAID THAT HE IMMEDIATELY ASSUMED CONTROL OF THE AIRCRAFT, ROLLED THE THROTTLE TO THE FULL OPEN POSITION AND ATTEMPTED TO ENTER AN AUTO ROTATION, HOWEVER, INSUFFICIENT ENERGY REMAINED IN THE ROTOR TO FULLY ARREST THE DESCENT RATE PRIOR TO TOUCHDOWN.

The complete narrative as the NTSB published it. The NTSB's docket holds the report as a PDF and any photographs, statements and other documents from the investigation.

The factual record from the NTSB's investigation tables, in plain English

Pilot

  • Certificate: flight instructor, commercial pilot
  • Ratings: multi-engine land; single-engine land; instructor: helicopter; instrument: helicopter; rotorcraft: helicopter
  • Flight time: 5,530 hours in all; 2,821 in this make and model; 49 in the last 90 days; 25 in the last 30 days; 5,162 as pilot in command; 767 on instruments
  • Medical certificate: Class 2 (valid medical--no waivers/lim.)
  • Seat: rgt

The aircraft

  • Airframe total time: 5 hours
  • Last inspection: annual inspection, January 10, 1987; 5 hours since
  • Maximum gross weight: 3,000 lb
  • Seats: 4
  • Landing gear: fixed
  • Engine: Allison 250-C20B (turboshaft); 0 hours total

The flight

  • Departed from: FFZ Mesa AZ at 3:35 pm
  • Flight plan: none
  • Runway 0
  • A second pilot was aboard

Weather at the time

  • Light: daylight
  • Wind: from 140° at 10 knots
  • Visibility: 50 statute miles
  • Sky: scat at 25,000 ft
  • Temperature: 61°F (16°C), dew point 37°F (3°C)
  • Altimeter: 29.00 inHg
  • Observation at 3:45 pm from DVT, 7 miles away

Injuries

FatalSeriousMinorNone
Crew2

Documents from the investigation the NTSB's docket: the evidence folder behind the report

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Other NTSB records under N1601Y the same tail number, which may have belonged to a different aircraft at the time

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