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Cessna 185F accident near Glendale, Arizona, November 18, 1984

On November 18, 1984 at about 5:02 pm local time, a Cessna 185F, registered N4845E, was substantially damaged in an accident near Glendale, Arizona (Glendale Muni airport). It was a personal flight under general aviation rules (Part 91). No one was hurt; 2 people were on board or involved. The weather was visual conditions (good weather).

The NTSB's probable cause their words, unchanged

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Source: NTSB aviation accident database, copy made October 5, 2026. Docket and reports at the NTSB.

What the record shows

Date
November 18, 1984 · about 5:02 pm local time
Place
Glendale, Arizona · Glendale Muni · map
Type
Accident
Injuries
No one was hurt; 2 people were on board or involved.
Weather
visual conditions (good weather)
Aircraft
Cessna 185F · all 185Fs on the register
Registration
N4845E · registry record · serial 18503887
Damage
Substantial damage
Flight
Personal flight · general aviation rules (Part 91)

The NTSB's narrative final · quoted from the NTSB record

THE ACFT WENT TO THE LEFT OF THE DESIRED TRACK FOR TAKEOFF AND THE PLT SAID THAT IN THE ATTEMPT TO REGAIN DIRECTIONAL CONTROL BY MEANS OF THROTTLE MANIPULATION AND BRAKE APPLICATION (THE PLT IN LATER INSPECTION OF RWY AND BRAKES REPORTED RUBBER MARKS ON THE RWY SURFACE AND 'THE LEFT BRAKE WAS BLUE' PITCH CONTROL WAS LOST. THE ACFTS TAIL CONTINUED TO RISE UNTIL THE ACFT NOSED OVER ON THE RWY. THE PLT REPORTED IN THE 6120.1 REPORT THAT THE ACCIDENT WAS NOT RELATED TO A MECH FAILURE/MALFUNCTION. THE PLTS REPORTED TOTAL TIME IN THIS TYPE OF ACFT IS 33 HRS OF WHICH 2 WERE FLOWN IN THE LAST 30 DAYS. THE PLT ALSO REPORTED A SLIGHT X-WIND FROM THE LEFT AND A 'P' FACTOR INCREASE AS THE TAIL OF THE ACFT BEGAN TO RISE DURING TAKEOFF ACCELERATION.

The complete narrative as the NTSB published it. The NTSB's docket holds the report as a PDF and any photographs, statements and other documents from the investigation.

The factual record from the NTSB's investigation tables, in plain English

Pilot

  • Certificate: airline transport pilot, flight instructor
  • Ratings: multi-engine land; single-engine land; instructor: airplane multi-engine; instructor: airplane single-engine; instructor: instrument airplane; instrument: airplane
  • Flight time: 3,950 hours in all; 33 in this make and model; 84 in the last 90 days; 20 in the last 30 days; 3,660 as pilot in command; 1,300 on instruments
  • Medical certificate: Class 1 (valid medical--no waivers/lim.)
  • Seat: left

The aircraft

  • Airframe total time: 285 hours
  • Last inspection: annual inspection, December 15, 1983; 51 hours since
  • Maximum gross weight: 3,350 lb
  • Seats: 4
  • Landing gear: fixed
  • Engine: Continental IO-520-D (piston); 0 hours total

The flight

  • Departed from: P37 Glendale AZ at 4:35 pm
  • Flight plan: none
  • Runway 17, 2,400 ft by 50 ft
  • A second pilot was aboard

Weather at the time

  • Light: daylight
  • Visibility: 50 statute miles
  • Sky: clear
  • Temperature: 75°F (24°C), dew point 0°F (-18°C)

Injuries

FatalSeriousMinorNone
Crew1
Passengers1

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