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Grumman AA-5B accident near Carlsbad, California, March 10, 1984

On March 10, 1984, a Grumman AA-5B, registered N74862, was substantially damaged in an accident near Carlsbad, California (Mcclelland-Palomar airport). It was a personal flight under general aviation rules (Part 91). 2 people had minor injuries. The weather was visual conditions (good weather).

The NTSB's probable cause their words, unchanged

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Source: NTSB aviation accident database, copy made October 5, 2026. Docket and reports at the NTSB.

What the record shows

Date
March 10, 1984
Place
Carlsbad, California · Mcclelland-Palomar · map
Type
Accident
Injuries
2 people had minor injuries.
Weather
visual conditions (good weather)
Aircraft
Grumman AA-5B
Registration
N74862 · no longer on the register · serial AA5B0384
Damage
Substantial damage
Flight
Personal flight · general aviation rules (Part 91)

The NTSB's narrative final · quoted from the NTSB record

THE PLT REPORTED THAT WHEN THE ACFT WAS ABOUT 10 FT AGL & HE WAS BEGINNING TO FLARE FOR A LANDING ON RWY 24, A SLIGHT GUST OF WIND CAUSED THE PLANE TO DRIFT TO THE EDGE OF THE RWY. THE PLT BEGAN CORRECTING FOR THE DRIFT, BUT THE PASSENGER GRABBED THE YOKE & PLACED HIS FEET FIRMLY ON THE RUDDER PEDALS. REPORTEDLY, THE PASSENGER 'FROZE ON THE CONTROLS.' THE PLT DIRECTED THE PASSENGER TO RELEASE THE CONTROLS & HIT HIM TWICE IN THE CHEST. AS THE ACFT CONTINUED TO VEER OFF COURSE, THE PASSENGER RELEASED THE CONTROLS, BUT BY THIS TIME, THE ACFT WAS HEADED TOWARD PARKED ACFT. ACCORDING TO THE PLT, THERE WAS INSUFFICIENT TIME & DISTANCE AVAILABLE TO CORRECT THE SITUATION. THE ACFT CRASHED INTO A CESSNA 182K, N2584F; A CESSNA 152, N24384; & A CESSNA 150, N63206. THE PASSENGER DID NOT REMEMBER GRABBING THE ACFT CONTROLS.

The complete narrative as the NTSB published it. The NTSB's docket holds the report as a PDF and any photographs, statements and other documents from the investigation.

The factual record from the NTSB's investigation tables, in plain English

Pilot

  • Certificate: private
  • Ratings: single-engine land
  • Flight time: 285 hours in all; 230 in this make and model; 35 in the last 90 days; 17 in the last 30 days; 235 as pilot in command
  • Medical certificate: Class 3 (valid medical--no waivers/lim.)
  • Seat: left

The aircraft

  • Airframe total time: 225 hours
  • Last inspection: annual inspection
  • Maximum gross weight: 2,400 lb
  • Seats: 4
  • Landing gear: fixed
  • Engine: Lycoming O-360-A4K (piston); 0 hours total

The flight

  • Departed from: EMT El Monte CA at 11:45 pm
  • Flight plan: none
  • Runway 24, 4,700 ft by 150 ft

Weather at the time

  • Light: daylight
  • Wind: from 260° at 5 knots
  • Visibility: 6 statute miles
  • Temperature: 70°F (21°C), dew point 0°F (-18°C)
  • Altimeter: 30.00 inHg

Injuries

FatalSeriousMinorNone
Crew1
Passengers1

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