Piper PA-38-112 accident near Newcastle, Oklahoma, November 24, 1984
On November 24, 1984 at about 2:00 pm local time, a Piper PA-38-112, registered N2478B, was substantially damaged in an accident near Newcastle, Oklahoma. It was an instructional flight under general aviation rules (Part 91). No one was hurt; 2 people were on board or involved. The weather was visual conditions (good weather).
The NTSB's probable cause their words, unchanged
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Source: NTSB aviation accident database, copy made October 5, 2026. Docket and reports at the NTSB.
What the record shows
- Date
- November 24, 1984 · about 2:00 pm local time
- Place
- Newcastle, Oklahoma · map
- Type
- Accident
- Injuries
- No one was hurt; 2 people were on board or involved.
- Weather
- visual conditions (good weather)
- Aircraft
- Piper PA-38-112 · all PA-38-112s on the register
- Registration
- N2478B · no longer on the register · serial 79A0081
- Damage
- Substantial damage
- Flight
- Instructional flight · general aviation rules (Part 91)
The NTSB's narrative final · quoted from the NTSB record
ON SIMULATED EMERG LANDING, INSTRUCTOR EVALUATED APPROACH AS UNSALVAGABLE & AT 1700 FT AGL TOLD STUDENT TO EXECUTE GO-AROUND. STUDENT HAD ALLOWED AIRSPEED TO DECAY IN AN EFFORT TO STRETCH GLIDE. STUDENT RAISED FLAPS & DID NOT ADD PWR. AS ACFT SETTLED, INSTRUCTOR ADDED PWR AND REDEPLOYED FLAPS. INSTRUCTOR STATED HIS ATTEMPTS TO LOWER ACFT NOSE TO GAIN AIRSPEED WERE THWARTED BY STUDENTS FAILURE TO RELINQUISH CONTROL AND CONTINUED APPLICATION OF NOSE UP INPUT. INSTRUCTOR GAINED CONTROL TOO LATE TO AVOID STALL/MUSH INTO SOD FIELD.
The complete narrative as the NTSB published it. The NTSB's docket holds the report as a PDF and any photographs, statements and other documents from the investigation.
The factual record from the NTSB's investigation tables, in plain English
Pilot
- Certificate: commercial pilot
- Ratings: single-engine land; instructor: airplane single-engine; instrument: airplane
- Flight time: 860 hours in all; 501 in this make and model; 313 in the last 90 days; 745 as pilot in command
- Medical certificate: Class 2 (valid medical--no waivers/lim.)
- Seat: rgt
The aircraft
- Airframe total time: 3,450 hours
- Last inspection: 100-hour inspection, October 15, 1984; 50 hours since
- Maximum gross weight: 1,670 lb
- Seats: 2
- Landing gear: fixed
- Engine: Lycoming O-235-L2C (piston); 0 hours total
The flight
- Departed from: OUN Norman OK at 1:45 pm
- Flight plan: none
- Runway 0
- A second pilot was aboard
Weather at the time
- Light: dawn
- Wind: from 120° at 4 knots
- Visibility: 15 statute miles
- Sky: clear
- Temperature: 36°F (2°C), dew point 30°F (-1°C)
- Altimeter: 30.00 inHg
Injuries
| Fatal | Serious | Minor | None | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Crew | 2 |
Documents from the investigation the NTSB's docket: the evidence folder behind the report
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Other NTSB records under N2478B the same tail number, which may have belonged to a different aircraft at the time
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